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#1 Jon H.

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 02:12 PM

Hi Friends, Was reading an article by avid HDR guy, Jeff Revel, the other day, and he posed an interesting recommendation. He's a big proponent of Photomatix Pro for HDR image processing, but suggested using Photoshop (CS3) for the initial "merge to HDR" because Photoshop's image alignment function is better/more accurate than Photomatix Pro's. After merging to HDR in Photoshop, save the 32-bit file as OpenEXR or Radiance, and then open that file in Photomatix for tonemapping (which is where Photomatix runs circles around Photoshop). Haven't done a comparison myself yet, but I'm thinking on some handheld HDR stuff, this might be particularly useful. Another advantage of doing it this way is that I can export the RAW files from Lightroom to Photoshop (Edit > Merge to HDR in Photoshop) and it LR doesn't convert to TIFF like it does if you try to export to Photomatix from Lightroom. Jon
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Posted 18 November 2008 - 03:26 PM

I have been thinking of getting Photomax to try some HDR but to be honest its not really something I am interested in enough to buy Photoshop CS3 or 4. Maybe Nik filters will come up with a HDR plug in for NX2 now that would make me happy. But this is good info Jon and I love your HDR stuff. Jim

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Posted 18 November 2008 - 05:54 PM

I have been thinking of getting Photomax to try some HDR but to be honest its not really something I am interested in enough to buy Photoshop CS3 or 4. Maybe Nik filters will come up with a HDR plug in for NX2 now that would make me happy.

But this is good info Jon and I love your HDR stuff.

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Jim; If you wanted to do HDR, you do not need CS3, you can get Photomatrix PRO as a stand alone for about $89.

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Posted 21 November 2008 - 03:34 PM

You can also get Photomatix as a Photoshop plugin that works with all the latest version including CS4. You import the pictures into Photoshop and then after it's done its magic run the plugin on it. The plugin has all the tweaking features of the standalone program with the advantage that any further tweaking after the mapping is accomplished can be done in Photoshop and then exported. After you've done the Tone Mapping the displayed image in Photoshop might not look quite like it did in the filter preview window. To correct this reduce the bit level to 16 or less and a dialoge box will come up allowing you to do a quite a bit more tweaking if you want.
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Posted 08 May 2010 - 05:52 AM

I don't have CS3 any more, but I did play a little with the merge to HDR in CS5 and it is pretty good - although I still like Photomatix better, maybe because I'm more familiar with it. I didn't really test the alignment, though, since most of my HDR shots involve exposures longer than I want to hand hold.
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Posted 08 May 2010 - 07:26 AM

One of the adobe guru's,Ben Willmore teaches this same process. He has an amazing tutorial on the web. I don't recall the addressbut you can google "Hdr tutorial#91" and should find it. He also leads an amazing life style traveling the country, teaching and taking pic's, 24/7 on a custom bus.
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Posted 08 May 2010 - 09:38 AM

Interesting tip, I'll give it a go and post any differences as I find them.
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Posted 26 May 2015 - 08:45 AM

HDR can now be done in LightRoom CC and also in Photoshop CC. I have Photomatix Pro and use it very little now. I do not use Photoshop CC for HDR now that you can can get it in LightRoom CC. Think about it for a moment. Now you can take 9 separate shots and convert them into a HDR Panorama. Adobe engineers recommend that you only need to take  3 separate shots with an F stop difference of 2. Convert that and each into an HDR and then combine the HDR shots into a Panorama HDR. Pretty cool!


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Posted 26 May 2015 - 07:06 PM

Hi There,

This thread is from 2008,

Some great info, may pay to start a new thread?


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Posted 26 May 2015 - 07:34 PM

Nik software has a great HDR plug-in. Works for both Photoshop CC and Lightroom CC.

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Posted 26 May 2015 - 07:37 PM

Hi There,
This thread is from 2008,
Some great info, may pay to start a new thread?


Good suggestion, Gary. Things have changed a WEE bit, haven't they? :)
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Posted 27 May 2015 - 12:34 AM

Just a little, even CC along the way :)


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