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#1 wlchandler

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Posted 16 April 2015 - 07:17 PM

Ok so I have decided that maybe a auto focus body ain't such a bad thing. So what ya got, anyone change their there mind? Thanks for your input


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Posted 16 April 2015 - 07:45 PM

I always loved the F100. Given a choice, of a F6 or an F100, I would take two F100's.

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Posted 16 April 2015 - 09:18 PM

If you want the best AF, the F100. If you want the best metering, the N90s/F90x is by far the best I've used. The flash metering is better than the iTTL systems IMNSHO.
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Posted 16 April 2015 - 11:30 PM

Still my FM3a, but my F100 is fantastic and the perfect AF body tough, fast and accurate.

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Posted 17 April 2015 - 11:29 AM

Gotta take issue with you there, Jim. Yes, the AF accuracy of the F100 is outstanding, but I've noticed that the F100 seems to underexpose slide film in low light. The solution seems to be to use CW metering under these conditions. I've also had some underexposure problems when using flash with this camera.

KR has a whole series of exposure compensation tricks to deal with its metering inaccuracies. I thought it was just my camera until I read his review -- what he talks about there is exactly what I was dealing with.

http://www.kenrockwe...on/f100Flsh.htm

Don't misunderstand, I like my F100, but I've got to use exposure compensation to make it work like I want it to.

Edited by justshootit, 17 April 2015 - 11:35 AM.

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Posted 17 April 2015 - 11:47 AM

Gotta take issue with you there, Jim. Yes, the AF accuracy of the F100 is outstanding, but I've noticed that the F100 seems to underexpose slide film in low light. The solution seems to be to use CW metering under these conditions. I've also had some underexposure problems when using flash with this camera.

 

Well, I didn't have that problem. But, then, I bought slide film in batches and ran an exposure test, no matter what camera I ended up using. Like Velvia 50 would need to be set to ISO 40, 100 tested out at ISO 80. Provia was the same, always about 1/3 less. Once I got the exposure index right, everything work fine on the F100. for film, where I would use flash, I would have Portra 100 neutral, and set the ISO to 160. worked like a champ.


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Posted 17 April 2015 - 12:04 PM

I've never had any issue with the exposure/meter accuracy with my F100 and I've hadvtwobthe first one was stolen years ago the second is in fact the one Dennis had I bought it from him several years ago.

My Kodachrome slides and regular E-6 slides are all spot on. To add I've never trusted KR much of his writings are hyperbol to be honest.

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 03:05 AM

Well I've got issues with KR too but in this case I saw the behavior in the camera first and then read the review, and was a bit relieved it wasn't just me. I don't think all F100s are affected, but some non-trivial percentage of them are. I bought mine in 2004 and it's got this issue. Definitely different than the N90s which is the gold standard in my bag. I took the F100 to a family Christmas weekend one year, used flash the whole trip, and the negs were all quite light. Probably a stop off.


It's still an awesome camera, one just needs to know what it's exposure curve looks like and set the exposure compensation accordingly. Dennis' idea is a good one. I'm going to bracket the first roll and see what the exposure comp needs to be for a particular film.
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Posted 18 April 2015 - 07:35 AM

Awesome info Gents, much appreciation!


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 09:15 AM

Don, if you do the indexing, you need a black, while and a gray source in the image. I used teddy bears and my gray weathered fence.

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Posted 18 April 2015 - 10:29 AM

There were a batch of F100 bodies that had the metering system programmed upside down - the multi pattern thought sky was ground and compensated causing poor exposures. A mate had one and I remember sending it back to Nikon UK to be fixed.

 

As to my all time favourite film body - we're in Contax territory not Nikon  ;)


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 09:43 PM

There were a batch of F100 bodies that had the metering system programmed upside down - the multi pattern thought sky was ground and compensated causing poor exposures. A mate had one and I remember sending it back to Nikon UK to be fixed.
 
As to my all time favourite film body - we're in Contax territory not Nikon  ;)


Hmm upside down that's funny! :P

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Posted 19 April 2015 - 04:54 AM

He was a train spotter at the time (came to his senses I'm glad to report) who shot hundreds of frames per week, always Fuji transparency film so correct exposure was critical. We had pre-ordered the F100 for him so he got one of the first batches and just couldn't get it to expose correctly. He had a pair of F90 bodies at the time and was getting rock solid results but had been champing at the bit to get his hands on the F100 - the rumours at the time were that the metering was upside down and Nikon did take it back and 'fix' it so something was definitely awry with early samples. 


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Posted 19 April 2015 - 07:42 PM

Black Pearl, thats too funny. Contax!? lol


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Posted 03 May 2015 - 10:42 AM

If you want an AF body that's cheap and has alot of good features-N80 or N6006. The 6006 meters with manual focus lenses. The N80 has a much better AF system than the 6006 but does not meter with manual focus lenses. If you want a do it all body that's not too terribly expensive-F5 or F100. If you're rich and want to flaunt it-F6. If you want an AF body that is best with MF lenses-F4.


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Posted 03 May 2015 - 04:29 PM

I recently got a brand new yes brand new N80 great little camera!

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