Eon Timewave Master Member
Posted 29 April 2018 - 10:39 PM
I have used the 24-70, both first and second gen, and wasn't very pleased with the results. Not, to mention the price. So, I decided to look for the 28-70/2.8 and got one that is mint. Here it is using the D850 to give it a good work out. I'm am very pleased with the results.
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Thanks, Dennis.
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Eon Timewave Master Member
Posted 30 April 2018 - 12:47 AM
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Nikon P900 Nikon P330
F100 w MB-15, N80, FM3a, FE2(Black and Silver) and EM.
Nikkor 24-85G ED AF-S VR, 70-300G ED AF-S VR, 28-105 3.5-4.5 AF-D, 50 1.8 AF-D
Nikon Series E lens, 28mm, 100mm, 135mm, 75-150mm, 70-210 f4.
MF Nikkor's 50 f2 Ai, 500 f4 ED Ai-P.
MF Rokinon 14mm f2.8 ED AE UMC(Ai-P)
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Eon Timewave Master Member
Posted 30 April 2018 - 01:08 AM
Stunning captures.
Amazing detail, great exposure and your granddaughter is adorable!
Well done.
Planet Hero Member
Posted 30 April 2018 - 09:06 AM
Dennis,
I also have a NIkon 28-70/2.8. Even though I've always be happy with the images made with it, from time to time I've been tempted to upgrade to a 24-70/2.8. Your experience and wonderful photos have convinced me that there is no reason to think about such an upgrade.
Edited by Gary Poole, 30 April 2018 - 09:09 AM.
Eon Timewave Hero Member
Posted 30 April 2018 - 01:09 PM
Really nice shots, Dennis.
Nikon Canada doesn't show it on it's web site, so would I be correct in assuming that it's only available as a used lens? I'm betting they're scarce. 
Bottom line: If the 28-70 works for you, keep it because it sounds like a great bargain. 
Eon Timewave Master Member
Posted 30 April 2018 - 01:18 PM
Really nice shots, Dennis.
Nikon Canada doesn't show it on it's web site, so would I be correct in assuming that it's only available as a used lens? I'm betting they're scarce.
Bottom line: If the 28-70 works for you, keep it because it sounds like a great bargain.
The 28-70/2.8 is discontinued from Nikon. This is the lens before Nikon switched to the 24-70/2.8 (1999-2007 ??). This is a used lens is near mint condition, USA model, came with both caps, lens hood case and box with original manual. These are sooc with just cropping. I cropped pretty deep to see if the D850 shows any focus issues.
Thanks, Dennis.
Photography: 100 percent art, 100 percent technical. It takes a photographer to blend them into an image.
Film: That tangible image that you can see and hold.
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Nikon Z7 (My wifes, but I'm allowed to use it once a quarter), Z6, D4, D850, D200, Fm2, FM, Mamiya RB67.
Eon Timewave Master Member
Posted 30 April 2018 - 07:40 PM
Thanks, Dennis.
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Eon Timewave Master Member
Posted 30 April 2018 - 10:26 PM
The 28-70 has always been a super sharp lens it was one of the three kings. Its only drawbacks was its is huge and can be used for self defense, and for some not wide enough. But I have to be honest several people I know who sold this lens for the first version of the 24-70 f2.8 were all mildly disappointed in the IQ of the new lens but I think this was more of high expectations than a bad lens, they also said the AF was much better and it was lighter than the older 28-70 and found the 24mm vs 28 very useful. Dennis Jazz had the same issues as you he tried two copies of the 24-70 f2.8 both were not good I wonder if the 24-70 f2.8 lens had some initial QC issues or being a pro lens it was road hard and unlike the older model that is a tank doesn't hold up as well.
Jim
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Nikon P900 Nikon P330
F100 w MB-15, N80, FM3a, FE2(Black and Silver) and EM.
Nikkor 24-85G ED AF-S VR, 70-300G ED AF-S VR, 28-105 3.5-4.5 AF-D, 50 1.8 AF-D
Nikon Series E lens, 28mm, 100mm, 135mm, 75-150mm, 70-210 f4.
MF Nikkor's 50 f2 Ai, 500 f4 ED Ai-P.
MF Rokinon 14mm f2.8 ED AE UMC(Ai-P)
MF Rokinon 85mm f1.4 ASP AE UMC(Ai-P)
Pro Manfrotto 055XV with Markins M10 ,Sirui P-326 6-Section Carbon Fiber Monopod with Markins Q3 Emille, Manfrotto Compact MKC3-H01M with Combo Head, 3Pod PTT1H Table Top Tripod with Giottos MH1304 Ballhead.
Eon Timewave Master Member
Posted 30 April 2018 - 10:50 PM
Thanks, Dennis.
Photography: 100 percent art, 100 percent technical. It takes a photographer to blend them into an image.
Film: That tangible image that you can see and hold.
My Web Site.
My 500px page.
My Instagram.
Member; Colorado Springs Creative Photography Group, NPS member.
Nikon Z7 (My wifes, but I'm allowed to use it once a quarter), Z6, D4, D850, D200, Fm2, FM, Mamiya RB67.
Eon Timewave Master Member
Posted 30 April 2018 - 11:00 PM
About the weight, one the D4 and the D850 with grip, it seems well balanced and I dont seem to feel the 32oz all that much. Without the grip, I believe it would be heavy. I wouldnt be hiking with it, I would be using bigger lenes.
Its kind of interesting, as I was concerned about the weight. My left arm is considerably weaker than it was. The 200-500 is a bit to much for my right arm to hand hold it, even with VR. But, the 28-70 serms to be nothing for my arm. I also have a hand strap when I do events, so the camera wouldnt be on my beak all day.
I'm not sure if I am right on this but it is a squat lens thus the weight is closer to the mount, the new version is thinner and longer with the weight farther away from the mount I wonder if this could be why it balances so well.
I know silly but hey its late and I am doing laundry! 
Jim
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Nikon P900 Nikon P330
F100 w MB-15, N80, FM3a, FE2(Black and Silver) and EM.
Nikkor 24-85G ED AF-S VR, 70-300G ED AF-S VR, 28-105 3.5-4.5 AF-D, 50 1.8 AF-D
Nikon Series E lens, 28mm, 100mm, 135mm, 75-150mm, 70-210 f4.
MF Nikkor's 50 f2 Ai, 500 f4 ED Ai-P.
MF Rokinon 14mm f2.8 ED AE UMC(Ai-P)
MF Rokinon 85mm f1.4 ASP AE UMC(Ai-P)
Pro Manfrotto 055XV with Markins M10 ,Sirui P-326 6-Section Carbon Fiber Monopod with Markins Q3 Emille, Manfrotto Compact MKC3-H01M with Combo Head, 3Pod PTT1H Table Top Tripod with Giottos MH1304 Ballhead.
Eon Timewave Master Member
Posted 01 May 2018 - 09:35 AM
Thanks, Dennis.
Photography: 100 percent art, 100 percent technical. It takes a photographer to blend them into an image.
Film: That tangible image that you can see and hold.
My Web Site.
My 500px page.
My Instagram.
Member; Colorado Springs Creative Photography Group, NPS member.
Nikon Z7 (My wifes, but I'm allowed to use it once a quarter), Z6, D4, D850, D200, Fm2, FM, Mamiya RB67.
Eon Timewave Master Member
Posted 01 May 2018 - 09:49 AM
God bless all those in harms way and Go Navy!
Nikon P900 Nikon P330
F100 w MB-15, N80, FM3a, FE2(Black and Silver) and EM.
Nikkor 24-85G ED AF-S VR, 70-300G ED AF-S VR, 28-105 3.5-4.5 AF-D, 50 1.8 AF-D
Nikon Series E lens, 28mm, 100mm, 135mm, 75-150mm, 70-210 f4.
MF Nikkor's 50 f2 Ai, 500 f4 ED Ai-P.
MF Rokinon 14mm f2.8 ED AE UMC(Ai-P)
MF Rokinon 85mm f1.4 ASP AE UMC(Ai-P)
Pro Manfrotto 055XV with Markins M10 ,Sirui P-326 6-Section Carbon Fiber Monopod with Markins Q3 Emille, Manfrotto Compact MKC3-H01M with Combo Head, 3Pod PTT1H Table Top Tripod with Giottos MH1304 Ballhead.
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