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#1 james23p

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Posted 26 March 2016 - 11:16 PM

I was very surprised how well the zoom stood up to the prime.

 

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Posted 26 March 2016 - 11:56 PM

Excellent read, Jim. Surprising, but not really. I have tried out the 200-500mm lens and the results were excellent.
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Posted 27 March 2016 - 04:23 AM

Just what I like to hear... :)


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Posted 27 March 2016 - 02:54 PM

The tests indicate the 200-500 is a great lens for the budget conscious buyer.  I'm confused by his test methodology though.

  • He/she says they shot in RAW and converted to JPG with no adjustments in View-NX.  No problem with that.
  • He/she then says they uploaded at "full resolution (Medium size)".  That is an oxymoron.  Medium size down samples the pixels to about 75% in each dimension which is equivalent to a 9 Mpx image from the D4s used in the test.
  • He/she doesn't state what JPG compression he is using.

If someone wants to compare resolution why would they down sample the images shown?  I would rather see 100% crops.  Furthermore I'd like to see those crops at minimum compression, i.e. the maximum JPG quality setting.

 

Another thing the author states is the darker whites and blacks with the 200-500 at the same exposure settings indicate that the 200-500  is maybe a half stop or more slower that the 500/4 at the same indicated aperture.

 

Personally I'm skeptical of the 200-500's ability to track wildlife, especially birds in flight.  My only reason for buying a lens of this focal length would be for wildlife.  f/5.6 is already pushing the camera's focusing ability for moving targets.  This review makes me think that the f/5.6 aperture may be a bit optimistic.


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Posted 28 March 2016 - 11:41 AM

I looked at the guys profile and web page he is a serious bird photographer and he seems to have done real well with the 200-500VR.

He also has some excellent aviation photos with this lens now they are a bit bigger than birds. Lol

Reading the comments in the article Thom Hogan made an interesting comment he thinks the 200-500 is one of Nikons best long lens at infinity.

But in the end for true pixel peeping I'm sure the 500 prime is truly superior except maybe in the hand holding department. But still a 1300 lens vs 10000 it did well.

All interesting stuff of coarse if price wasn't a factor id own both one for tripod work and one hand held stuff. :)

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Posted 28 March 2016 - 12:08 PM

I think in a world where one is constrained with a budget, it becomes important to really understand your equipment, in this case the lens. It's not 10k, and will not perform like a 10k lens. But, if you learn it's weaknesses and strengths, like anything, you will get good results. Setting it on a tripod, at 500mm with a 1.4x TC pointing at a finch some 200m away, you can't expect the lens to give you it's best results. And neither would the 10k lens.

 

While primes will give you an edge, and sometimes a very good edge. It's will still come down to two things;

 

1) Affordability.

2) One takes time to learn how to use it.

 

And maybe, realistic expectations.


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Posted 28 March 2016 - 04:29 PM

Excellent points Dennis!

 

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MF Nikkor's 50 f2 Ai, 500 f4 ED Ai-P.

 

MF Rokinon 14mm f2.8 ED AE UMC(Ai-P)

MF Rokinon 85mm f1.4 ASP AE UMC(Ai-P)

 



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Posted 28 March 2016 - 05:42 PM

I do agree with Gary on the testing/sampling.

 

That being said, from what I have seen this is an excellent budget minded zoom that can hold its own again some much more expensive glass. The one thing that this lens can do that the 500 cannot, is get excellent results from 200-499mm. I have missed a lot of opportunities while using a 500 prime, and believe me when I say, there are a lot more times that the versatility of a good zoom outweigh the slightly sharper/faster prime in the end.  B)


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Posted 08 July 2016 - 07:55 AM

Hmmm. I shoot them both (as well as the Sig 150-600S) The 200-500 looks darn good on the D810/800 with regards

to details/bokeh when shot wide open. There is NO comparison, however to the AF speed and IQ of the 500 f4 VR

on either FX or DX bodies. While I love the range and lightweight of the 200-500, lets be serious here...ok?!  :lol:



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Posted 24 January 2018 - 04:56 AM

I happened across this article ...Looks to be 2 years after the fact. 

I actually know Andy personally. He used to live in the DFW Metro and often had Birding tutorial classes.

Quite possibly one of the best photographers I have ever known.

He used to come out and shoot aircraft pictures with me. He owns just about every piece of Nikon equipment made, and knows how to use it.

I still to this day hit him up with questions i cant answer.

Last year he moved to Canada to be close to family.

We still keep in touch and I see him on occasion at an airshow.


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