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Posted 07 February 2018 - 09:23 AM

I'm sure you guys dread the "which camera" threads and yeah, this is sort of one but I have more of a specific question than a which one.

 

I have always been very interested in photography but have never taken the time to shoot enough to really learn.  We have a D40 that has lived in the closet for a number of years until I stumbled across it recently and decided I want to go for it.  I picked up a used 50mm f1.8 and I'm thinking I'll probably get an all around lens like an 18-200 because I think it works for what I want to use it for but that's for a question down the road.  Anyway, as far as my price range is concerned, I think I can do a new D5600 body but notice the D7100 body is only about $50 more at this point.  I like the idea of getting as much as I can for the money but want to make sure I'm not missing out on something.

 

I know there are some layout differences and I know the 7xxx series has the built in auto focus, which probably doesn't matter for me because I don't have lenses that require it.  And I'm sure there are some differences I currently don't understand.  One of my specific questions is how useful is the movable screen on the 5600?  I suspect I'll mostly use it for stills but I may do some video.  I wont likely do much in the way of selfie type video but I may do a review here and there for fishing equipment but I can't imagine it being a primary use.  

 

So I guess I have two questions.  One is the movable screen and the other is - are there other advantages or disadvantages to either that are significant enough to move in a direction.



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Posted 07 February 2018 - 04:06 PM

Welcome Darly I will dive into your question later Im down with the Flu. But give us and idea what type of photography you like this will help us answer your question.

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 05:55 PM

Thanks Jim and hope you feel better soon.  

 

As far as what I like or will be doing is concerned, I'll have to answer with what I think I will be doing.  I live in South Florida so we live a fairly outdoor lifestyle.  I do a lot of fishing, a lot of it from a kayak, so I am thinking actually that the camera would go with me.  It wouldn't just be to photograph fish but also wildlife I may encounter, interesting landscape or landmarks I may see, or just anything I run across that looks like it needs to be photographed.  I did grab the 50mm for anything we do indoors like family events or the occasional weight lifting event with my daughter.  And finally for travel.  We are doing a cruise this year, a trip to Nashville, a fishing trip to VA, and probably a trip or two to the Keys.

 

Beyond that I don't know.  Maybe I will end up gravitating to a specific type of thing.

 

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 08:31 PM

The D7100 has the advantage over the D5600 of having an AI tab/prong (whatever you want to call it). This allows one to use older manual focus AI lenses on their DSLR by connecting the aperture mechanism of the lens with the camera body. This is important to me because I have small collection of older MF lenses that I like to use on my DSLRs.

 

Some photographers find the articulating view screens to be gimmicky. Others couldn't live without them once they try them.

 

The D5600 is about 3 1/2 years newer than the D7100. So it will definitely have a better sensor, by a few generations. The D5200 came out a few months prior to the D7100 - late 2012 / early 2013. The D5600 was released in November 2016.

 

Both the D7100 and the D5600 are auto focus; so is your old D40. All Nikon DSLRs are auto focus. And most Nikon film SLRs have been AF since about 1990.

 

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 11:22 PM

The D7100 has the advantage over the D5600 of having an AI tab/prong (whatever you want to call it). This allows one to use older manual focus AI lenses on their DSLR by connecting the aperture mechanism of the lens with the camera body. This is important to me because I have small collection of older MF lenses that I like to use on my DSLRs.

 

Some photographers find the articulating view screens to be gimmicky. Others couldn't live without them once they try them.

 

The D5600 is about 3 1/2 years newer than the D7100. So it will definitely have a better sensor, by a few generations. The D5200 came out a few months prior to the D7100 - late 2012 / early 2013. The D5600 was released in November 2016.

 

Both the D7100 and the D5600 are auto focus; so is your old D40. All Nikon DSLRs are auto focus. And most Nikon film SLRs have been AF since about 1990.

 

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Peter I think he meant that the D5600 and his D40 do not have internal focusing motors so they will only focus with lens that have AF motors older AF lens that require the camera to have a AF motor will be manual focus only.

 

Of the two the D7100 will be more robust and a bit more weather resistant. Add that it has two command dials making it easier to shoot in full manual. 

 

Both are 24mp but I assume that the D5600 will have an edge on high ISO due to newer sensor.

 

The D7100 will have a much brighter viewfinder due to it has a Pentaprism vs the D5600's Pentamirror.

 

The D7100 will do 6 frames per second the D5600 will do a respectable 5 frames per second.

 

Here is where I think the D7100 will shine it has a better AF system it uses the much better system and it has 51 AF points vs 39 for the D5600.

 

In the end if the price is that close I would go with the D7100 it will hold up better due to its build and it will offer more room to grow with its more advanced features, unless you really want a tilt screen. I have had camera with and without tilt screens and they tilt screen is nice but I would not let it be a deciding factor.

 

We have several members who have and have used there D7100 it is first rate DX camera and it would perform better with a super zoom due to its superior AF system.

 

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 02:54 AM

The D5600 is a far newer camera with a few quite major real world advantages.

 

The articulated multi-touch screen is a major feature and I'll pretty much guaranty you will never buy a camera with a fixed screen again once you've shot with it. For walk about shooting it is a little less significant though still handy for low/high grab shots - however - on a tripod they are THE way to compose and shoot.

 

The connectivity is better meaning integration with mobile devices is easier, faster and more reliable. It is the future (should have been standard for years but tats a different argument) and again once you use it you won't want to be without it.

 

The video recording is better, the sensor while basically the same has been tweaked for a little extra performance and the camera is smaller and lighter.

 

 

 

Unless you NEED the old fashioned focus motor or desperately need the extra FPS or 8000s over 4000s then the D7100 is old tech and would be my second choice.


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Posted 08 February 2018 - 09:51 AM

The D5600 is a far newer camera with a few quite major real world advantages.

 

The articulated multi-touch screen is a major feature and I'll pretty much guaranty you will never buy a camera with a fixed screen again once you've shot with it. For walk about shooting it is a little less significant though still handy for low/high grab shots - however - on a tripod they are THE way to compose and shoot.

 

The connectivity is better meaning integration with mobile devices is easier, faster and more reliable. It is the future (should have been standard for years but tats a different argument) and again once you use it you won't want to be without it.

 

The video recording is better, the sensor while basically the same has been tweaked for a little extra performance and the camera is smaller and lighter.

 

 

 

Unless you NEED the old fashioned focus motor or desperately need the extra FPS or 8000s over 4000s then the D7100 is old tech and would be my second choice.

Didn't think about the touch screen for many that is a huge feature and I see that the D5600 has a mic input so that is also another plus I didn't know it had one like the D7100.  Looking at it again I am still not sure the D5600 is a huge step up due to its newer age the D7100 stacks up well and is faster in almost all areas. That said the fact you can control the D5600 from your phone since it is snap bridge capable is more in line with modern photography my XE2 is a joy to use with the Fuji app so I can see that as a huge selling point.

 

Here is an excellent side by side comparison it is just straight up facts.  Like Robin(BP) they recommend the D5600.

 

 

 

http://cameradecisio...-vs-Nikon-D5600

 

Last always hold the camera if you can. Because if you have large hands the D5600 might feel small, if you are like me I do have rather large hands but I have taken to smaller camera the D5600 might feel better so see if you can hold both.

 

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Posted 08 February 2018 - 11:05 AM

Wow.  Great responses.  I definitely appreciate the input.  Definitely advantages to both.  I have a little while before I can pull it off so I'm hoping to shoot the heck out of they D40 until then so I can determine which of those features you guys mentioned are most important.  It helped getting your ideas because now I have the right questions in my head when I go out shooting.



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Posted 15 February 2018 - 04:19 PM

I just found a used D5500 with a lens that works for me for what seems like a decent price.  I'm guessing the 5500 and 5600 are pretty similar.  Any reason not to go for the D5500?



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Posted 15 February 2018 - 08:29 PM

I just found a used D5500 with a lens that works for me for what seems like a decent price.  I'm guessing the 5500 and 5600 are pretty similar.  Any reason not to go for the D5500?

There is not a whole lot of deference between the two I think they even use the same sensor. If its in good shape and a good price it will serve you well. I think the main difference is NFC and Bluetooth connectivity vs WiFi only on the D5500.

 

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 03:50 AM

For comparison see link: https://www.dpreview...cts=nikon_d5600

 

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 07:36 AM

Thanks Gents.  I just found a great price on a new D5500 do I ordered it.  I'll update once it arrives.  



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Posted 19 February 2018 - 10:26 AM

Enjoy it!!! Back when $10,000 film systems by Nikon and C*non were all the rage and you "just couldn't do pro photography without it," there was a pretty famous fashion shooter that was doing some stunning fashion work with a little Rollei point-and-shoot. Just goes to show - it ain't about the gear.


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Posted 19 February 2018 - 11:04 AM

Congrats!!! Have fun with it. Can't wait to see your pictures... :)


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Posted 19 February 2018 - 02:48 PM

Congrats, Daryl.  Looking forward to seeing pics.  :)


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Posted 19 February 2018 - 03:17 PM

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 04:17 PM

Congrats can not wait to see some pics!  :D

 

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Posted 20 February 2018 - 07:25 AM

Hoping first that it actually shows up.  It was a great deal and although I communicated with the seller personally, it makes me nervous.  

 

And I'm hoping hanging out with you guys makes me a better photographer.  I have found over time that composition doesn't come naturally to me so I have to work at it.  My wife could care less how a camera works and shoots auto mode jpeg 100% of the time and makes fantastic photographs.  My excuse is I haven't taken enough pictures so hopefully this is the start of taking a lot of pictures.



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Posted 26 February 2018 - 08:57 AM

As suspected, it appears this deal was some sort of scam.  It was a used camera through Amazon.  I contacted the seller before ordering to ask if it was an international version.  Before they replied I went ahead and ordered because it was that good of a deal.  When they replied they said it was not an international version and that it was new in the box but Amazon wouldn't allow them to sell it as new.  Then they asked for my name, address, etc. so they could send it and let Amazon know.  I thought that was strange so I told them I already ordered it and could they confirm it was good to go.  They emailed back without answering that question but saying they needed my name and address asap.  I again responded that I already ordered it, just need to know if they got the order.  That email came back saying the account was disabled.  Then I got an email from Amazon saying they could not confirm shipment within the proper period.  From there I clicked the "contact the seller" button and asked if there was a camera or not and at this point haven't heard back.

 

Sooooo, I found a D5300 on ebay with low shutter clicks and with the 18-140 so I bid on it and won.  Seller had a lot of reviews with the common theme of item exactly as described so I felt safe enough.  I feel like I'm getting a very good camera to explore photography with for $500.  If it doesn't work out I can sell it without loosing much money.  

 

I'm pretty sure the 5500 isn't coming but if it does, I can sell one and still be fine.  



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Posted 26 February 2018 - 10:52 AM

Sorry to hear about the scam, Daryl.  Luckily, I have never encountered such a situation as yet.

 

This is exactly why I do all my transactions via PayPal as it serves as an extra guarantee.

 

Enjoy your D5300!

 

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Posted 26 February 2018 - 12:09 PM

Aaaaach!!! Sorry about the scam!!!! I had to deal with a scammer recently as well and it was VERY frustrating, so I can relate.

Let us know when the camera arrives - we're all anticipating that you're going to get some great shots with it.

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Posted 26 February 2018 - 03:30 PM

Hope you win the 5300 Daryl were you able to cancel and not have your money deducted from your account.

 

Hope you get the D5300 its also a nice kit to learn on and I have heard good things about the 18-140 as an all around lens.

 

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