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#1 ANovice

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 01:42 PM

Trying to decide on a new printer and would like some input/suggestions.  So far I've used a retain store to get prints made but now looking at getting a new printer for home.  There are a ton of choices and I don't want to spend a ton of $'s but would like one that will at least support 8" X 10" prints, color as well as B & W with pretty good quality.  I do summit photos to the photo clubs bimonthly competitions as well as those brave soles that sit for me on occasion.  Would not want anything that does not provide a very good quality, if that can be achieved at a reasonable price including ink & paper.  

Your thoughts/input as always are appreciated and valued.

 

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 02:17 PM

Hmm I only have a small dedicated photo printer but I know Jazz and a few others have more serious Epson type photo printers I am sure they will chime in.

 

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Posted 31 March 2016 - 04:57 PM

Thanks Jim for your prompt response.



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Posted 31 March 2016 - 05:10 PM

Just a little info I have the Epson Picture Mate PM225 it takes printer cartridges and paper that is packed together and I get very nice 4x6 prints but that is all it does. I will try to send Jazz a PM so he can tell you about his Epson I am not sure which one he has.

 

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MF Nikkor's 50 f2 Ai, 500 f4 ED Ai-P.

 

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MF Rokinon 85mm f1.4 ASP AE UMC(Ai-P)

 



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Posted 31 March 2016 - 05:20 PM

What is your budget?

 

I have been looking at printers, but I haven't purchased one yet. I have been looking at the epson P800, and there is a P600 version of it. Here is a review;

 

https://luminous-lan...or-p600-review/

 

It's about $800.


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Posted 01 April 2016 - 01:52 PM

Hey ANov,

 

I have an Epson 1800 and a 1900. They do just fine for me as I send much work to local printer via email. They do things cheaper.

The Epsons print 19X13 as largest print. Artisan is cheaper and does good. The 2000 costs more and does great. The difference is 200. and about 700.

Look them up on neutral sites to get customer feedback. Look at write ups on Dennis' suggestion.


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Posted 01 April 2016 - 01:55 PM

Thanks again Jim.

 

Dennis; my budget is not that high but I think I understand where you are coming from (YGWYPF).  One of the club members also has a really nice Epson which makes very good prints (IMO) but it is more than I want to pay.  Guess my real question is can one get a cheaper printer in the 1 to 2 hundred $ range that makes really good 8 X 10's or maybe up to 11 X 14's?

I'm feed up with my HP.  It is doing stuff I can't figure out or fix (not printing a full page and making multiple copies when it should only be one copy)  :angry:

 

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Thanks FotoFill.  Will check them out but may exceed my budget.



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Posted 01 April 2016 - 04:13 PM

If budget constraints are an issue, check out the Canon Pro 100.  Does a good job for the $.



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Posted 02 April 2016 - 04:09 AM

I have a photographer friend who told me.... "Never buy a printer, they are obsolete the minute you buy them! Find a good place to take your work and stick with them!"

So, I never bought a printer AND ..... I seldom print as a result!! :(

Epson is the way to go....check out the replacement ink cartridges....the prices (generally speaking) will make your head spine. This is fully, something to consider with the purchase because the expense follows you forever!

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Posted 02 April 2016 - 09:11 AM

Thanks all for your responses.  Yep, pretty discussed with HP and looking at Canon & Epson printers.  Guess I could get along without and utilize a print shop until the time comes that I need to print more often.  However I really do like the idea of making my own prints for the utility of it.  Also a great point about the ink and paper.  Just like in the old days of chemicals and paper when making prints from film/negatives.  I'll make a post once I can make a decision and see what the results are.  



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Posted 02 April 2016 - 03:47 PM

What Charles said. I have an Epson Stylus Pro 3800 and have tried printing with marginal success. If I am doing a big print, I always send it to a commercial printer. Printing is a black art.


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Posted 02 April 2016 - 09:04 PM

I have the Epson WF 1430.  Does a nice job.  Would like a better one, but for what I am doing it works for now.


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Posted 05 April 2016 - 05:29 PM

I have the Epson Photo R2000 and use it regularly. Finally using LR and PS CC to do some printing.

 

Bigger than 13x19..goes to print house.

 

Recommendation....Epson Printers.


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Posted 05 April 2016 - 06:45 PM

Seems Epson is the clear favorite around here.

 

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Posted 05 April 2016 - 06:47 PM

Seems Epson is the clear favorite around here.

 

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Agree, the local guys all like Epson, from what I have been hearing.


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Posted 05 April 2016 - 07:45 PM

Have you considered last years model ?

 

My Canon iP6520 was ~$500 when it was released.

 

After the new model came out, I paid $140 for the old model and there was a $40 mail in rebate !

 

Prints up to 13" x 19".  

 

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Posted 05 April 2016 - 08:39 PM

Epson is a great brand. My Epson 3880 worked flawlessly for a little over two years--then didn't. Repair cost was estimated to be $700.00. I would have to send the printer to Epson (at my cost) with a full charge on all cartridges. Needless to say--I did not.

I bought a Canon Pro100 to tide me over. A full load of cartridges is $103.00. It prints great for a printer under $400.00. LOOK for Sales and Rebates.

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 08:32 PM

I got my Pro-100 for $35 after rebates. That was almost 2 years ago so I doubt that rebate exists but the do run good rebates from time to time. All of the current printers are going to be pretty decent. I also refill my old cartridges for the Pro-100 so ink cost is almost nothing and results have been great. Printing can actually be fun. Some of the other printers also can do longer images as well. so you could do some panoramas if you need to. 


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Posted 12 April 2016 - 02:35 PM

Been very busy of late and had not gotten back to this.  Thanks for the updates and additions.  Sounds like a lot of good comments about both the Epsons and Canons.  At some point I'll just bite the bullet and but a printer.  For now will start looking for deals/rebates.

 

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 04:39 PM

Printers seem to go on sale fairly often so maybe you can get a good deal.

 

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Posted 13 April 2016 - 12:13 PM

Now is a good time to get one. Lots of online and store ops.

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Posted 19 April 2016 - 07:56 PM

I have a photographer friend who told me.... "Never buy a printer, they are obsolete the minute you buy them! Find a good place to take your work and stick with them!"

So, I never bought a printer AND ..... I seldom print as a result!! :(

Epson is the way to go....check out the replacement ink cartridges....the prices (generally speaking) will make your head spine. This is fully, something to consider with the purchase because the expense follows you forever!

Avoid HEWLIT PACKARD like the plague!!

But when u need quick print you cant beat having a printer around for occasional stuff you need. But I agree more serious stuff should be at a printhouse!


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Posted 19 April 2016 - 08:15 PM

Trying to decide on a new printer and would like some input/suggestions.  So far I've used a retain store to get prints made but now looking at getting a new printer for home.  There are a ton of choices and I don't want to spend a ton of $'s but would like one that will at least support 8" X 10" prints, color as well as B & W with pretty good quality.  I do summit photos to the photo clubs bimonthly competitions as well as those brave soles that sit for me on occasion.  Would not want anything that does not provide a very good quality, if that can be achieved at a reasonable price including ink & paper.  

Your thoughts/input as always are appreciated and valued.

 

Agge

Here is the issue though and I think a pretty big one. Printer manufacturers want us to believe that was can do massive amounts of prints from one set of cartridges installed. But the actual fact is the printer are setup to do 5% coverage as a daily task (As per an HP rep that was onsite one time at an office supply retail store). Five percent (5%) coverage id for the most part text only, and not photos or graphic filling the page. So hence the money grab game by printer manufacturers.

 

 

With that said I have an HP 7610 right now which is 13"X19" at its largest print size. But  the output looks like what is on my monitors so I'm not made at spending 150 dollars. It's a Hydra so it scans, faxes, prints,..etc. But it does a really decent print for being the price it is. Its not a $2000.00 printer but if I need that then my work goes to the people that have $20,000.00 and above printer instead, which is most of my workflow


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Cambo Legend 4"x5" kit (Lenses | bag bellows | loupe | Sheet film holders..etc.)
Sony HVR-Z7U HDV Camcorder & DCR-DVD D650 HandyCam (just in case)
 
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Posted 20 April 2016 - 01:33 PM

All really good comments and suggestions.  Think at this stage, since it looks like I am now going to have to replace the computer, that I'll rely on retain providers for standard printing and go to one of the local camera stores for the larger and competition prints.

 

Thanks again for everyones input.  Happy shooting.  

 

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Posted 27 April 2016 - 07:04 PM

Ok, I'm a little late to this party, but here's my 2 cents. I had an Epson X400 for about a year. I don't print a lot so it sat idle a lot. Epson's configuration was to have the print head permenantly installed and you justby ink. This keeps the cost down. But if you don't print often enough to keep things flowing, the ink dries in the print head and the head needs replaced. This is often more than replacing the printer.

I just bought a Canon MX 922 at Staples last month for $100. It prints reallynice 8x10 and it is a scanner,copier with (are you sitting down) ...DUPLEX. yes folks, two-sided printing for a hundred bucks.

If you don't print often, this is a great printer, and not just for photos. Plus, if it dies, it was only a hundred bucks ... withDUPLEX! And like others have said, when the print is important you're going to send it out anyway.
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Posted 09 May 2016 - 11:19 PM

I recently installed a HP All in one for the local sheriff's department - nice printer for the money - will run you about 100 if it's on sale. Bluetooth setup was easy - automatically installed to the local wireless network and you can print from an app on your phone. I was never really a HP fan, but they have improved over the years.


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Posted 10 May 2016 - 03:29 PM

I have a Canon PIXMA Pro9000 Mark ii and have been very happy with it.  I can do up to 13 x 19 and it produces wonderful black and white prints.  If I was in the market today for one however, I would go with an Epson.  I was looking at probably the Epson Stylus R3000, mainly because of the 13 x 19 and that it uses pigment based inks instead of the typical dye inks my Canon uses.  But since my Canon is going strong and has many years left, I won't be making that purchase any time soon.


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Posted 01 June 2016 - 04:21 PM

The top two brands for printers are Epson and Canon - in that order.  

 

The two big advantages of printing your own images are the immediate feedback and the ability to use specialty papers.  With print shops, papers are limited.  Turnaround time often takes a week or more, so if you need to make an adjustment, you need to send out again for another print.

 

You can get good quality prints by using a print house, but they vary quite a bit.  Most print houses use chromagenic prints - not inkjet.  That has an impact on print life expectancy.  Take a look at Episode 32 of the AskBC podcast.  http://www.breathing...om/blog/ask-bc/

 

Printer ink is very expensive in small cartridges, but is not that bad in larger amounts.  A set of inks for my Epson 4900 costs $900, but I can replace them one at a time over a couple of years or more, and they cover rolls and rolls of paper.  Printing on your own is more expensive than outsourcing, but has benefits. 

 

A printer needs to be used regularly - at least once a week.  If you don't use your printer, it tends to have more clogs and you don't get the benefit.  I make 8x10 proof prints to make sure my printer stays working and to test prints before I invest in a large size print.  

 

Outsourced printers normally color correct.  It's like putting your camera on Auto.  But that accounts for a lack of color calibration and overcomes typical errors.  They tend to increase contrast and saturation.  You can instruct your outsourced printer to not color correct and see if there is any difference.  If you don't calibrate your monitor, you'll need to start calibrating.

 

More than the cost of printing is the investment of time.  You need to learn to print - it's not just pressing a button.  It's just as challenging as making a photo.  You need to learn to manage color through your workflow, understand the print module of your software, and understand how settings on your computer and printer interact.  

 

Expect to invest 100 hours and $200-300 in your education.  You'll buy supplies and have more discarded prints than I want to think about.  There are books, podcasts, classes, etc.  I had to be comfortable buying a 25 sheet pack of paper and just using it up printing 8x10 proof prints.

 

If you get a printer, buy for the size you use most often.  Pick a printer with a print size that fits what you'll hang on a wall in your home or give to others.  If you need something larger, you can still outsource it.  But if you start small with a size you use, it will be gratifying.  


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