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#1 Art

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 10:43 PM

Just playing around....

 

Settings:

 

1/250s

f22

ISO 100

 

Tripod

3 remote flash

 

One image is the D5, the other, the D800

 

Can you tell the difference?

 

Cropped the same

 

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100% Crop

 

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Too bad I don't have the D850 with me.  It would make for a very cool comparison.  

 

One observation I had, and it was slightly adjusted out... the D5 has a warmer image.  It could be some other setting I missed on the D800 to make it the same.  The colors seem slightly richer.  Easily attainable in PP, but who wants to waste the time if you don't have to.

 

Set up....

 

I built a Light Tent, white reflectors (foam board) on the sides and top.

I used 3 flash on remote.

- SB-910 from the front and firing UP

- remote flashes firing up from the back forward

 

Camera about 2 feet away on a tripod.  Locked in the lens good and tight.

 

Fired first with one of the cameras then removed it and placed the other and fired again.

 

Settings as far as I could tell were identical, that was the plan.

 

Focus point is the uniform fold, just under the chin.


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Posted 24 October 2017 - 02:03 AM

Beats me Art .... i can't see a diiference.... the D5 WILL focus faster and more accurately... for moving stuff. :D


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Posted 24 October 2017 - 02:06 AM

Yup hard to tell Art. Now go get a D500 same AF system, similar sensor except slightly smaller and you get more reach. Lots of guys shooting D8xx series around here use a D500 for sports and birding they love the extra reach/FoV and speed some even say the D500 is a tad better than the D5 because the AF points cover a larger area on the D500 than the D5. See you need a D5, D500 and a D850 then you will have the top 3 camera in every category! :D

 

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 03:15 AM

Keep the D800!

 

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 10:27 AM

You wouldn't see a lot of differences necessarily. With my D4, with only 16meg, I have made prints as large as 5ft x 7ft, (at a client's lodge) with a file that I cropped in about 30%. If you're using those megapixels for reach, then you would probably see a differant when you need a 100-200% crop.

 

The more warm, is probably the differant in the image processor, the D5 has the new EXPEED 5 image processing engine, while the D800 has EXPEED 3. You can try to make the WB equal by setting it manually at the same values. That will eliminate WB differences.


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Posted 24 October 2017 - 10:41 AM

Uh, can we back this up, for a moment?  Did you decide to forgo the D850, and buy a used D5?  :huh:   Or are you just funnin' us?  :D


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Posted 24 October 2017 - 12:25 PM

Uh, can we back this up, for a moment?  Did you decide to forgo the D850, and buy a used D5?  :huh:   Or are you just funnin' us?  :D


As an NPS member, I get to borrow Nikon gear from Nikon directly.

There are refurbed D5's available at the moment with low use.

As I will more than likely, eventually get the D850 grip, I figured I would try a D5's on for size just to see what the difference is. So, I signed one out for two weeks. I have so Corporate work to do, and the Raptor shoot. Seemed like a good time.

I will make up my mind at ProFusion and order either/or at the show or shortly after. Hoping they have show specials.

I was out this morning testing the D5's again. Just a lovely camera!

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 12:28 PM

Jim,

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Get the holy trinity of cameras! If only the small inconvenience of money were not in the way!!! :P

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 12:34 PM

You wouldn't see a lot of differences necessarily. With my D4, with only 16meg, I have made prints as large as 5ft x 7ft, (at a client's lodge) with a file that I cropped in about 30%. If you're using those megapixels for reach, then you would probably see a differant when you need a 100-200% crop.
 
The more warm, is probably the differant in the image processor, the D5 has the new EXPEED 5 image processing engine, while the D800 has [/size]EXPEED 3[/size]. You can try to make the WB equal by setting it manually at the same values. That will eliminate WB differences.

Dennis,

The Expeed5 is very, very impressive. The D800 holds its own, however, especially, when you need to crop. This is why I am leaning towards the D850.

Even with the outrageously priced grip, it will be a force to be reckoned with. If I can churn out good action picks at a Motorcycle race with a D800, I think the D850 will not disappoint.

And, for a few FPS difference, the D850 has features I really want that the D5's does not yet have.

Makes you truly wonder what the D6 will bring to the table (as you asked on FB), doesn't it!

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 12:37 PM

Spoiler Alert on images above!!

Don't scroll down if you don't want to know....


























D5 on left D800 on Right if side by side

Top images...D5
Bottom... D800, if you have a small screen to view these on

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Posted 01 November 2017 - 07:18 PM

f/22 ?

 

That's seriously into the diffraction territory so both are slightly soft - especially the D800 image.  The D800 would have had another big step of sharpness at f/11.  I expected to see jaw dropping sharpness on the D800 since that's a known advantage.  Both cameras look about the same in terms of sharpness and contrast.  Did post processing settings differ?

 

I agree with your thought on warmth.  I've noticed small differences across cameras.  It's a taste issue rather than a problem.

 

I've got the holy trinity of cameras - the D850, D850 and D850.  It's hard to find anything it does not do well.  :)  All kidding aside, the D5 and D850 have different intended uses.  That said, the D850 has been my choice over the D800E and D500 for everything over the past month.


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