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Who is Going to Buy a New Nikon Body? (2007-2008)


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Poll: What body will you buy? (44 member(s) have cast votes)

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  1. Nikon D3 (9 votes [20.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.45%

  2. Nikon D300 (20 votes [45.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.45%

  3. D2X/s or D2H/s (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. D200 (1 votes [2.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.27%

  5. D80 (2 votes [4.55%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.55%

  6. D40/x (1 votes [2.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.27%

  7. Coolpix (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  8. None - I'm hanging with my current body! (11 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

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#1 DigitalDarrell

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 03:41 PM

Let NAS flow freely. What do YOU plan to do this year, or next? (2007 or 2008)
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Posted 30 August 2007 - 05:47 PM

The D300 takes the lead - hurray! I've got the money in the bank waiting for the first store to call me - I'll probably sell my D200 in late October... or I can do it now. Anybody want a D200 with just 6000+ clicks on the shutter? I'll let it go for $1200 w/ free shipping. PM me if you are interested. Mule
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#3 Neil Rothschild

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 06:17 PM

I'm going to try to make a D300 happen. It's a little soon for me because I just got a D200 last December when the holiday prices softened. I'm in it for the AF and 8FPS. This should bridge the gap between my D2H and D200 in that regard. If not for my wildlife and jousting work, I could sit with a D200 for quite a while because I think the D200 will become a classic. I think that, gear-head dementia aside, the D200 was the body that made DSLR's truly viable. They will get better, and quickly, but the D200 crossed some sort of line, in my view, the "camera no longer really matters" line, where I can do almost anything except heroic AF with that body. Regards, Neil

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 06:44 PM

I am getting a D300 but will also add one of the new coolpix I am leaning towards the new P50 as it takes AA batteries and is the keep in the car coolpix I want oh yea it has a manual mode but the P5100 is very cool I just do not want another charger to keep lugging around the P50 is for me. Jim

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Posted 30 August 2007 - 09:29 PM

Neil - I like the way you put it that "the D200 was the body that made DSLR's viable" - well said! It definitely crossed into pro territory in certain features, which is why I bought it. And the D300 will take it all the way! James - hope you can squeeze a D300 into your bag too! I've got to scrap the cash together by November - or sell the D200 and be bodiless until it ships - horrors! Or rent one of Darrell's many Nikons if it is needed... Mule
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Posted 31 August 2007 - 12:01 AM

When i sold my D2X i had the D300 w/grip in mind. Not sure about my D2H - either iīll keep it for some special tasks or sell it to get a second D300. Then i could work with two identical bodies, one for wide, one for tele.
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Posted 31 August 2007 - 12:54 AM

If not for my wildlife and jousting work, I could sit with a D200 for quite a while because I think the D200 will become a classic.


What part of the wildlife do find the D200 deficant in?

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 04:07 AM

"James - hope you can squeeze a D300 into your bag too!" Oh yea Mule that's why I got the Lowepro SS300 the largest one it has a ton of room. Right now I have my D50, D80 with the MD-D80 attached, 70-300VR, 50 1.8D, SB-600, 12-24 Tokina, 18-70DX and room for one more lens or remove the D50 and bingo D300!!! :D Jim

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 11:16 AM

What part of the wildlife do find the D200 deficant in?



You used the word "deficient", not I. I don't consider the D200 "deficient". I do consider my D2H better. I bought the D200 near the end of the winter birding season so I only had one or two opportunities to really test it out. I also spent a few afternoons at my local duck pond to test things out. What I am saying here is not the definitive answer, but just my observations to date, in the context that I need another winter to form a final judgment (I said earlier that the D300 was "too early" for me, and this is part of that thinking).

I shoot mostly in AF-C, focus priority mode. Focus priority is vitally important to me, and the major reason I upgraded from the D70 to the D2H. In principle, and by experience, shooting AF-C release priority is like rolling the dice. The AF is never in sync with the image 100% of the time. I think it runs in fits and starts to some extent, even the D2H. It is only a matter of degree.

When I shoot my D2H in Af-C focus priority, I get virtually 100% in focus images. If I am not in focus, I can usually figure out why simply by reviewing the image and displaying the active sensor outline. Last November I had a rare day where I shot about 600 images in a 25 minute window of small groups of birds moving to a different resting area. They all followed each other from one place to the other and I positioned myself as best I could to shoot the landings. Unfortunately I let the light get away from me (it was near sundown, great but fading light). Segregating out some shutter speed issues, I had essentially 100% in focus images. I knew it when I was shooting. When the AF was happy, it fired away at the 5fps setting in use. When it was not happy, it stopped shooting or stalled, telling me I needed to "reboot" by releasing AF-On and re-pressing until I got back in focus. My D2H talks to me and I listen. We are one.

My D200 is different. When it nails focus, it is fabulous. No question. At the end of a run, I get a very good number in focus. Considering the difficulty of this work, you could even call the D200 somewhat miraculous. However, it sometimes lies to me. It keeps clicking away when I know it is not in focus and later I confirm it. That camera has shot multiple images when nothing is even remotely in focus. Mostly it is because I have let the bird slip away from the sensor(s) - I shoot mainly single sensor for certain reasons. I am partly at fault here, but the camera and I are just not n sync; I am not getting the right feedback and I know that body is firing when nothing is in focus.

This is a fairly uncommon problem because it is pretty good at holding focus in most situations. If the D2h is 98% (which may be accurate), this camera is maybe 90-93%, something like that. Would I personally pay $5K for a fully Pro body to make up for that deficiency? Not right now. But $1800? That is very tempting, just to get another 5% because sometimes that 5% can make or break a full day's work. The D200 is good, but the D2H is fabulous. The D300.... ?????

P.S. After experiencing the false focus priority releases, I queried this on a net forum and got some confirmation that I was not alone. Others who have used both bodies have had false release issues.

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 12:25 PM

What part of the wildlife do find the D200 deficant in?


I hope to have on the first D300's that arrives in Seattle, and may actually grab two and upgrade both my D200's.

While I an not Neil, I'll pop in on this subject as well.

I shot D2H for years, loved the camera, hated that it was only 4MP. When the D200 showed up I had some tough decisions to make. Get the more MP for the ability to crop knowing that I would lose some AF, FPS and High ISO, or not. I chose, obviously, the D200 route and I have not been at all unhappy. But, my hope has been for a body with better AF to compare with the D2 series, FPS back to 8FPS and cleaner ISO 1600/3200. Well, doesn't THAT just sound a bunch like the D300!!!

I'll address each of these ponts, echoing some of what Neil points out.

AF - in good light the D200 is great, when it fades a bit, low contrast objects are difficult. Only the Center AF point is cross-hatch, which is usually quite fine for me, but I do notice some sloweness compared to CAM2000. Now we have CAMAMAZING, I have no clue what I'll do with 51AF points, but I am postive the 15 cross hatch will be a huge improvement.

Back to 8fps - I often shoot beside folks with D2X(s) shooting at 8fps in HSC, and I can see the "extras" they get in a burst. This will help with peak action.

Cleaner ISO1600/3200 - I often start shooting at or slighty prior to dawn and at or slightly after sunset. Coupled with the better AF this gives me a lot of options while still being able to keep shutter speed up. Also, consider using these ISO's with Auto-ISO. I start at dawn in December with Trumpeters Swans flying off the water, past the trees into a clear sky. I have watched my ISO go from 1600 to 100 in a sequence with the D200. This should be great with the D300.

I agree with Neil, I wouldn't say "deficient" but for these three reasons I think the D300 will help me out a lot.

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 12:39 PM

Bill, Have you had the same experience as I have with the D200 firing in focus priority mode when the sobject is OOF or not even on an active sensor? I can't imagine shooting BIF after sundown or before sunrise. You're nuts! :lol: Neil

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Posted 31 August 2007 - 05:09 PM

I clicked D3, but in reality will wait to see if a D3x appears in the next twelve months. If so, NAS will be all consuming!
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Posted 04 September 2007 - 10:45 PM

I clicked D3, and I will do my best in the next 365 days to make that happen. But if I can't swing that, I will be just fine with a D300. I need a second body, and both cameras address my needs. But the D3 looks just too darn slick to not aim for. Can't wait to see a real hands of review. Darrell???!

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Posted 04 September 2007 - 10:54 PM

I clicked D3, and I will do my best in the next 365 days to make that happen. But if I can't swing that, I will be just fine with a D300.

I need a second body, and both cameras address my needs. But the D3 looks just too darn slick to not aim for. Can't wait to see a real hands of review. Darrell???!


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Posted 05 September 2007 - 12:16 AM

I think I will have a new camera in my future... (if my wife and the bank account allows it) However, I don't seee the need to rush and get the latest Nikon body just yet... The Fuji S2, is slow, but still beats many of the DSLR out there in quality (even @ 6 mpx) The S3, is still good in file size and quality out of the box (or camera) The D200 is fast, reliable, and the colors are great... but not near the colors and tones of the Fujis... And the trusty D70, is fast and reliable like its big brother (or sister) the D200... I rather get new glass, and some 1.2 or 1.4 Nikkors... The rest of my equipment is still keeping up with the changes... Now, if I win the lottery, all bets are off... New equipment from top to bottom... jeje
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Posted 05 September 2007 - 06:32 AM

Carlos and I are of the same mind set. My S3 is doing just fine for most applications. A bit slow for shooting sports, etc. But I don't feel the need to leap to the 3 series yet. If I were to invest in a camera it would be the D200. From what I am hearing it would be just fine for my needs. Glass, not that's the issue for me. ODNT
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Posted 06 September 2007 - 01:00 AM

I clicked D300. I'm torn though. I was saving for a D200, but then bought a Pentax K10D (June this year) instead when I started seeing the rumors of new Nikon models. I am not at all displeased with my decision. Although I would still like a D200, for purposes other than the K10D, if I were to purchase another body (at the D200's current price point) in the very near future it may be an S5. As far as the D300 is concerned, in reality I think I'd prefer to wait and see how it works out with the early adopters. On the other hand, if the D200 drops to the $1000 level ... I'm all over it!!

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Posted 06 September 2007 - 08:53 AM

Da 50 is still going strong...but a D300 sure looks like it is on the horizon. Now If my band can book 10 more gigs by the time it ships? :unsure:

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#19 justshootit

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 03:56 AM

D3 -- with all the night shooting I do, that ISO-25,600 setting looks awfully good. May never expose a roll of TMax 3200 again...
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Posted 16 January 2008 - 08:29 AM

Already picked up a D3

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Posted 03 February 2008 - 05:29 PM

I may try to get a D40 or D40X body when the prices on them go down a bit. B)

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Posted 03 February 2008 - 06:28 PM

UPS delivered my D300 on Nov. 29 :)
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#23 photojazz

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 04:02 PM

I picked up a new to me D200! A great sidekick to DA 50!!!:rolleyes:

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I photo-shoot with film, digital and medium format cameras, which includes the following:
Nikon D605, D200, F4E, F5, FE2 (Black & Silver), EM
Mamiya C330 Professional, M645 1000s, RB67
Bronica ETRSI

And I have some lenses.

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Posted 19 March 2008 - 06:50 PM

My new D300 arrived on Monday the 17th of March. Excellent companion to my D2X!
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#25 Virgil

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 12:51 AM

Do shoot my D300 for months now, did send back the Coolpix S700 as she didnīt meet my requirements, did cancel the second D300 in favour of a D300 FX-version to get the best of both worlds (DX and FX).
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Posted 20 March 2008 - 01:50 AM

Do shoot my D300 for months now, did send back the Coolpix S700 as she didnīt meet my requirements, did cancel the second D300 in favour of a D300 FX-version to get the best of both worlds (DX and FX).


Huh?

What D300 with an FX? Where can I buy one????
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#27 BVermillion

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 04:49 PM

They don't have one out, but the speculation is that they will be making one in the near future. At least that is my understanding of it.




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