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Posted 16 October 2018 - 11:47 PM

A couple more, these are on Stainless Steel.  I took a pot lid, flipped it and used it as a base.  It was easy to get 1 and 2 drop results, 3 and higher was a disaster experiment.

 

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 12:47 AM

The splashing continues .... more experimenting.... a little more understanding .... still not the desired effect.

 

 

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 10:31 AM

Such an interesting form of photography! When are you going to try Milk Art?

Nice work.

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Posted 21 October 2018 - 11:43 AM

Jim,

 

See posts 19-20, those are with milk.

 

As I experiment, I am learning different things.  This is a very, very fiddly form of photography.  Every time you set up, it takes about 50 images to get the "feel" down.  The reason is every little thing factors in.

 

The height of the MIOPS from the water.  Any change in height changes the parameters.

The size of the droplets.  

The gaps in time between drops.

The number of drops etc.

The gaps between those drops (up to 4 drops, change one ... whole new ball game!)

 

Any one little change and the whole equation changes. One impacts all the others.

 

I think I am going to email customer support in Turkey and see if I can learn something new from them.  The key piece, the part where a droplet of water causes a tower of water to erupt from the pool and is met, when it has almost crested, by a colliding drop coming down from the MIOPS device, to form that crown looking explosion, still escapes me.  

 

All this is measured in milliseconds and I have done them all patiently to no success.  Maybe I am missing a little secret I need to find out about.

 

The images above are produced with blue food coloring in the water and a drop of soap.  Forget the soap, too many after bubbles you have to deal with before you can proceed again.  Waste of time.  I am sure there are liquid thickening agents I can buy to experiment with.

Bottom line: FASCINATING.

 

This has really caught my interest, especially coming into Winter.  Something to do while it is bleak outside!! :)


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Posted 21 October 2018 - 12:17 PM

This might help.

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Posted 22 October 2018 - 09:43 AM

Dennis,

 

Thank you for the link.  It is a good article, but it falls short in the key areas.

 

Unlike other articles, they do mention some key factors, but they don't match up with the measurement yardstick used by MIOPS.  MIOPS measures drop size in milliseconds.  They don't measure drop size and it is important.

 

MIOPS uses BULB, he uses .05 second shutter speed. Probably doesn't matter because the flash is what grabs the image.

 

Flash is set at 1/20,000 to 1/30,000 of a second, which is about 1/128 setting on my SB-910

 

He goes 19" above the water, MIOPS recommended about  12" which is what I am using.  I suspect the more height, the longer the reflected column out of the water.

 

There is no discussion on the key piece of information, when to drop the second drop!

I emailed Turkey this morning. Hope to hear back tomorrow.

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Posted 22 October 2018 - 04:37 PM

Dennis,

 

I got a response back from Turkey.....

 

Valve 20cm ... 7.9"

First Drop 50 ms

2nd Drop 50 ms Delay 100ms

Trigger 200ms

 

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Posted 18 November 2018 - 02:30 AM

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It looks rather technical... that would definitely interest me. I see quite a bit of water-drop photography on another Nikon User Site I belong to, I enjoy viewing the work. 

 

I am anxious to see your results. I cannot wait until someone develops a miniature H20 proof camera fixed to a miniature gooseneck which will allow the user to insert the camera lens into the water drop. Should be very interesting to see what it looks like from the inside out. 

 

 

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Posted 18 November 2018 - 07:40 PM

Don,

May be a while before I run this experiment again, no time.

It requires staying set up or you start from scratch again. I am busy this time of year with Corporate stuff and as I get closer to Christmas, family ...

May be the new year before I look at it seriously again.

I have a new strobe I want to try, so I am anxious to set it up again!
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Posted 15 December 2018 - 07:24 PM

I bought a MIOPS trigger several years ago to photograph lightning, it has a lot better interface than the other trigger that I was using (Lightning Bug). I think that they have come a long way since I bought mine.


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Posted 16 December 2018 - 01:23 AM

I bought a MIOPS trigger several years ago to photograph lightning, it has a lot better interface than the other trigger that I was using (Lightning Bug). I think that they have come a long way since I bought mine.

 

I am quite impressed with it, Ron.  The fact you can trigger it all from an iPhone is terrific.  I have to get back to this in the new year.  Right now, the Christmas madness allows for almost zero creative photography.  Did you have any good success with yours? Curious.

 

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