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#1 Gary Worrall

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Posted 25 December 2014 - 03:39 AM

Hi guys
I know a guy who gets amazing images out of his canoe shooting bird life
Well, thought I would have a go shooting from my boat,
Found a great spot on this river with what looks like nesting spoonbills and looking at the egrets
plumage, may be the same mission
Also, heaps of ibis

Thought I was in a wildlife shooters heaven,
Soon brought back to earth when I viewed the images, every one OOF 😞😞😞
haven't bothered counting but must be 300 images!

Average shutter speed was around 1/2000-1/3000th sec
f8 auto ISO
There was gradual movement of the boat but thought I had it covered with the shutter speed

I would contact the guy that does it from his canoe but do not access to his location until I return home I the new year
Any ideas?
Using the D700 and 300f4
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Edited by Gary Worrall, 25 December 2014 - 03:41 AM.

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Posted 25 December 2014 - 03:56 AM

Sounds like there may be a problem with the AF on the body or lens. I would put that combo on a tripod and shoot some still subjects, and see if the focus is good. The shutter speed should have been fast enough.


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Posted 25 December 2014 - 06:12 AM

Hmm no VR might be an issue but you've taken tack sharp images with that combo so I wonder if as the canoe moved so did the AF point.

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Posted 25 December 2014 - 06:15 AM

Tks Bill,
You may be on to something,
Did a trial late this afternoon, with a Gitzo 3541LS RRS BH-55 ballhead
Focus was still off, at f8, I'm thinking DOF should have been ample

Will have a closer look when I get home to pixel peep with a real computer

Seriously thinking of a MacBook air for future long trips, although I can still see the OOF with the iPad

May only have a chance one the water in a couple of days due to weather
May even try and manual focus a few

Had this problem in the past with the 300, starting to think it was just me but now thinking otherwise
tried the fine tuning thing but it was just too inconsistent to nail a result

Arts success with the Tammy has really got me thinking!
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Posted 25 December 2014 - 08:51 AM

At those shutter speeds the slight motion of your boat shouldn't matter Gary. My 200-400 has VR and I seldom use it because I feel that I can do better without it when I'm shooting from a boat. I doubt that it is boat motion that is causing your problem Gary.


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Posted 25 December 2014 - 12:37 PM

Hi Gary,

Do you think f8 might be an issue?

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Posted 25 December 2014 - 05:29 PM

At those shutter speeds the slight motion of your boat shouldn't matter Gary. My 200-400 has VR and I seldom use it because I feel that I can do better without it when I'm shooting from a boat. I doubt that it is boat motion that is causing your problem Gary.

Tks for the feedback Ron
Hadn't used the 300 for quite some time, should have checked before I left on this trip
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Posted 25 December 2014 - 05:33 PM

Hi Gary,
Do you think f8 might be an issue?
Merry Xmas!

Hi Mark,
Are you saying that set at f8 would be an issue with DOF?
Or, that there could be a problem with the setting at f8?
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Posted 27 December 2014 - 05:52 AM

Some facts,

1. I bought the AF-S 300 f4 some years ago, has always been hit and miss

2. Early this year I had a chattering sound with the autofocus, someone said to me, after they heard that, theirs soon died!

3. Always though it was the nut behind the viewfinder that was the main problem,  :)

Anyway, now home, had to leave early due to some, "socially unskilled" people near us, at the only accommodation available so chose to come home

Going to do some tests on the lens and camera over the next few days and now have a look at the OOF images on a "real" computer and see if I can salvage any

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Posted 27 December 2014 - 06:00 AM

Gary,

 

We have our share of "socially unskilled" folk here in the south.  We call them "red necks".  As for salvaging photos, do no forget about the "shake reduction" feature in CC 2014. It is an incredible tool.  It is found under sharpening. As with all tools, the more you use it the better the results.

 

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Posted 27 December 2014 - 06:33 AM

Tks Charles,

Just going through the images as we speak,

Salvaging a couple as I go,

Going to post one now in wildlife, not perfect but not going to X it

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 01:15 PM

Hi Mark,
Are you saying that set at f8 would be an issue with DOF?
Or, that there could be a problem with the setting at f8?
.......Gary

 

Hi Gary, 

 

At that setting, it shouldn't be.  However, for tack sharp images, I try to stay between f11 and f16.

 

You subsequently mentioned a potential auto focus issue, and that would probably mess things up a fair bit.

 

If you use the "shake reduction" feature, share how you like it?  I now use LR for almost all of my PP, but CC 2014 is available if needed.  :)


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Posted 28 December 2014 - 01:17 PM

Can you post a sample, with a close crop?


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Posted 28 December 2014 - 06:07 PM

 

Hi Gary, 

 

At that setting, it shouldn't be.  However, for tack sharp images, I try to stay between f11 and f16.

 

You subsequently mentioned a potential auto focus issue, and that would probably mess things up a fair bit.

 

If you use the "shake reduction" feature, share how you like it?  I now use LR for almost all of my PP, but CC 2014 is available if needed.  :)

Hi Mark,

Tried shake reduction before and didn't appear to do anything,

After your post, I had another go with this one, amazing feature

this image is a whole lot better

Certainly going to help on the boat!

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Not long enough glass for this one but PS shake reduction did help

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Edited by Gary Worrall, 28 December 2014 - 06:16 PM.

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 06:28 PM

Can you post a sample, with a close crop?

With these 2, there was an improvement with PS shake reduction

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But couldn't do very much with this one

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Edited by Gary Worrall, 28 December 2014 - 06:29 PM.

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 06:41 PM

Doesnt look like camera shake, on these at least.


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Posted 28 December 2014 - 06:44 PM

Yes, it is hit or miss with SR.  However, for me shooting folks most of the time, it fast becoming my favorite sharpening tool.



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Posted 28 December 2014 - 06:46 PM

Doesnt look like camera shake, on these at least.

I have improved photos of folks that are slightly out of focus for what ever reason.  Work the sliders  a bit, Gary.  



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Posted 28 December 2014 - 06:52 PM

Much appreciated Charles,

Thank your for your suggestion, amazing software!

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 06:56 PM

Much appreciated Charles,

Thank your for your suggestion, amazing software!

............Gary

You are welcome. Us old guys need all the help we can get.



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Posted 28 December 2014 - 06:58 PM

You are welcome. Us old guys need all the help we can get.

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You got that right!


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