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Posted 09 January 2016 - 11:44 AM

This is embarrassing.  I've been shooting a D70s for years, using several lenses, and I've never seen this effect -- obtained with a brand new D7100 and a Tamron SP 150-600.  Cards are 16 GB SanDisk Extreme 90 MB/s.

 

I see this effect in about 5 of every 100 shots, taken in various lighting conditions.

Attached File  Problem_Image.JPG   205.36KB   1 downloadsSwitched the cards and got the same result.  Haven't tried changing lenses yet, but I've never seen this using the Tamron on our D70s.

 

I've tried Googling for help, but nothing shows up, probably because I don't know what to call this effect.

 

I've attached a small sample -- I'll be glad to get any advice.

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Posted 09 January 2016 - 11:51 AM

This only happens when using the Tamron?

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MF Rokinon 14mm f2.8 ED AE UMC(Ai-P)

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Sigma 24-70 f2.8 EX DG HSM, Tamron's SP 70-200 f2.8 LD Di IF/Macro BIM, Kenko Pro 300 1.4 TC DGX, Tokina 100 f2.8D Macro At-X.

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Posted 09 January 2016 - 12:10 PM

Yes. So far.  I hope it's not a lens effect -- the Tamron at 600 mm is among the sharpest lenses I have now.

 (The sharpest would be my AF Micro Nikkor 105mm.)

 Have you seen an effect like this before?

thanks... ~chang0

PS:  We have a bit a sun this AM, so I'll go out and shoot another 100 or so images.  This time, i'll set the D7100 on auto, just to reduce "pilot error."



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Posted 09 January 2016 - 12:11 PM

The term is 'corruption'.  The file is corrupt.  It has nothing to do with the lens.


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Posted 09 January 2016 - 01:13 PM

Have you formatted you card?  If not, I recommend you give it a go as I definitely think it's the card in this case.

 

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Posted 09 January 2016 - 01:56 PM

Thats is almost certainly a card issue - did you buy good quality, branded cards from a very reputable dealer because there are loads of poor quality cards and plenty of fakes/knock-offs.

 

That being said it could be an issue with the camera not writing to the card - try different shooting both JPEG and NEF files together - try both slots - try writing the same file to both cards at once and see if they both corrupt.


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Posted 09 January 2016 - 02:06 PM

Yes I've seen this as mentioned it's usually a corrupted file and it is usually the card.

As Herman said try formatting the card in the camera and shoot both raw and JPEG and see if it still does it. I do find it odd it only does it with the Tamron.

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Nikon 1 stuff: Nikon V1, Nikkor 10mm f2.8 pancake w/HN-N101 & HC-N101, Nikkor 10-30mm f3.5-5.6 w/HB-N101 Aspherical VR,, Nikkor 18.5mm f1.8 w/HB-N104, Nikon 1 FT-1, SB-N5 w/Polaroid Diffuser .

F100 w MB-15, N80, FM3a, FE2(Black and Silver) and EM.

Nikkor 24-85G ED AF-S VR, 70-300G ED AF-S VR, 28-105 3.5-4.5 AF-D, 50 1.8 AF-D, Nikkor 18-35 f3.5-4.5 AF-D ED.

Nikon Series E lens, 28mm, 100mm, 135mm, 75-150mm, 70-210 f4.

MF Nikkor's 50 f2 Ai, 500 f4 ED Ai-P.

 

MF Rokinon 14mm f2.8 ED AE UMC(Ai-P)

MF Rokinon 85mm f1.4 ASP AE UMC(Ai-P)

Sigma 24-70 f2.8 EX DG HSM, Tamron's SP 70-200 f2.8 LD Di IF/Macro BIM, Kenko Pro 300 1.4 TC DGX, Tokina 100 f2.8D Macro At-X.

Pro Manfrotto 055XV with Markins M10 ,Sirui P-326 6-Section Carbon Fiber Monopod with Markins Q3 Emille, Manfrotto Compact MKC3-H01M with Combo Head, 3Pod PTT1H Table Top Tripod with Giottos MH1304 Ballhead.


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Posted 09 January 2016 - 02:57 PM

Solved it! I shot another 40 images (the sun was out!), this time with another lens, an AF-S NIKKOR 70-300 and obtained the same effect! That eliminates the lens.

I usually read the cards with LightRoom (LR), so I deleted all the images from the hard-drive and re-read using Nikon Capture NX-D and obtained the same corrupted files, thus eliminating card, lens, and I/O program.

that left the camera and the card reader, a Saicoo USB 3.0 4 Slots 11 in 1 Digital Memory Card Reader / Writer, with a 13CM Flexible USB Cord, which I'd bought from Amazon for USD 10.99. Before switching cameras, I tried replacing the card into the D7100, removing the Saicoo reader, installing the USB-to-camera connector, and re-loading the images into LR.  NONE OF THE IMAGES WAS CORRUPTED.

Admittedly, the Saicoo reader has performed OK since I bought it in NOV2015, but it failed at the exact time I began using a new lens and a new camera.  Lesson learned:  There is no substitute for good, old-fashioned trouble-shooting.  I'm happy to have lost only USD11.

Thanks to everyone who suggested sources of the problem. Those who identified the card as a cause were certainly on the right track.

73/TX... chang0

 

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Posted 09 January 2016 - 03:15 PM

Whew!! At least it wasn't something expensive!!   :mellow:  :ph34r:


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Posted 09 January 2016 - 03:19 PM

It's not always the card.  It can be the cord. Sometimes the transfer software does it.  And it might be the hard drive.


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Posted 09 January 2016 - 04:43 PM

Good to hear it was a simple fix!

Jim

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Nikon 1 stuff: Nikon V1, Nikkor 10mm f2.8 pancake w/HN-N101 & HC-N101, Nikkor 10-30mm f3.5-5.6 w/HB-N101 Aspherical VR,, Nikkor 18.5mm f1.8 w/HB-N104, Nikon 1 FT-1, SB-N5 w/Polaroid Diffuser .

F100 w MB-15, N80, FM3a, FE2(Black and Silver) and EM.

Nikkor 24-85G ED AF-S VR, 70-300G ED AF-S VR, 28-105 3.5-4.5 AF-D, 50 1.8 AF-D, Nikkor 18-35 f3.5-4.5 AF-D ED.

Nikon Series E lens, 28mm, 100mm, 135mm, 75-150mm, 70-210 f4.

MF Nikkor's 50 f2 Ai, 500 f4 ED Ai-P.

 

MF Rokinon 14mm f2.8 ED AE UMC(Ai-P)

MF Rokinon 85mm f1.4 ASP AE UMC(Ai-P)

Sigma 24-70 f2.8 EX DG HSM, Tamron's SP 70-200 f2.8 LD Di IF/Macro BIM, Kenko Pro 300 1.4 TC DGX, Tokina 100 f2.8D Macro At-X.

Pro Manfrotto 055XV with Markins M10 ,Sirui P-326 6-Section Carbon Fiber Monopod with Markins Q3 Emille, Manfrotto Compact MKC3-H01M with Combo Head, 3Pod PTT1H Table Top Tripod with Giottos MH1304 Ballhead.


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Posted 09 January 2016 - 05:13 PM

Out of interest how do the corrupted files look while they are still in the camera?


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Posted 09 January 2016 - 06:20 PM

My vision isn't good, so I can't see them well enough on the back, but I can see them on the monitor just before uploading into LR.

They look great.

BTW, I could use some recommendations about buying card loaders.

73... ~chang0



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Posted 10 January 2016 - 12:38 AM

And the connection of card reader to cord can get ya. 


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Posted 10 January 2016 - 10:27 AM

I only use a reader for the D1x because the FireWire port on that camera was problematic on the PC (now that I think about it, I'm gonna try that on the Mac and see if it works). I also used one on the D70 when I had it because the USB on that camera was pretty slow.

However, the D610 and D3200 USB are fast enough that I just connect the camera to the computer and transfer directly. It's plenty fast enough that way. The D7100 is likely just as fast as the other late model cameras, so you probably don't need a card reader unless you fill up multiple cards at a time and then need to upload them in a huge batch.
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Posted 10 January 2016 - 01:42 PM

I only use a reader for the D1x because the FireWire port on that camera was problematic on the PC (now that I think about it, I'm gonna try that on the Mac and see if it works). I also used one on the D70 when I had it because the USB on that camera was pretty slow.

However, the D610 and D3200 USB are fast enough that I just connect the camera to the computer and transfer directly. It's plenty fast enough that way. The D7100 is likely just as fast as the other late model cameras, so you probably don't need a card reader unless you fill up multiple cards at a time and then need to upload them in a huge batch.

 

Don, you make very good points.

 

That said, I find it far more convenient to use a card reader.  My iMac's SD port is on the back of the monitor.  Using it requires turning the monitor around in a limited space.  It's far easier to plug a card reader into one of the USB ports and use that.  Additional advantage is that the D810 uses both CF and SD cards while the iMac only accepts SD cards.  The card reader was a very quick and very cheap fix.  :)


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Posted 10 January 2016 - 09:25 PM

True enough. I have USB ports on the back of my Thunderbolt monitor, as you do with the iMac, and I use a USB hub to alleviate that issue.
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Posted 11 January 2016 - 11:13 AM

Thanks to all for the comments on card reading.  After throwing out the Saicoo reader, I went to the USB cable included with the D7100.  Then I went back to an old Sandisk reader.  Rationale:  (a) constant plugging and unplugging must eventually wear out a connection and ( B) it's cheaper to replace readers/USB equipment/cards than to repair *any* part of a camera. YMMV...;-)

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 11:18 AM

Thanks to all for the comments on card reading.  After throwing out the Saicoo reader, I went to the USB cable included with the D7100.  Then I went back to an old Sandisk reader.  Rationale:  (a) constant plugging and unplugging must eventually wear out a connection and ( B) it's cheaper to replace readers/USB equipment/cards than to repair *any* part of a camera. YMMV...;-)

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