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Posted 08 October 2018 - 09:30 PM

Thanks to PN Member, Nelson Cortez, I invested in one of these water drop tools for stop action water droplet, photography technology. So, my adventure began when I saw an image Nelson took and a reference to a website.

 

The link took me to ISTANBUL, TURKEY!

 

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I placed my order on October 4th and received the kit you see below on October 8th (today) .... very nice and tidy turn around.  The whole time, my order status was updated with Phone text and emails telling me exactly where my package was, my waybill number was included and a link to the DHL website to follow it along from stop to stop!! Very nice, accurate tracking.

 

The package arrived, surprisingly, wrapped in a plastic bag!  As you can see form the image below.  After opening and inspecting, no damage.  That was nice.

 

I redacted personal information out of the image.

 

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Two boxes inside, they are simply product boxes you would find the product sold in, in any store, if they carried them.  Product inside was undamaged at a glance.  I turned on the unit and it did turn on.  I have not yet tested it on a camera.  That will come tomorrow.

 

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This is what you get for $119 USD and $37 tax and tariffs from Istanbul Turkey to Toronto.... 4 day deliver.  To be honest, I am impressed, it is all nice quality.  

 

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I plan on downloading the more elaborate manual (supposedly, from the website) and studying it tonight and then setting up tomorrow to give this a run.  I am hoping, my flash triggers will allow me to use more than one flash.  That is the plan!

 

I will keep this thread going until we get some really decent images and I explain to you how I go them.

 

 

First impressions:

 

The shipping packaging they send it to you in blows, BUT, there is no damage, so I guess it worked out fine.  

 

After I opened the two boxes, I was very impressed and the fact it came in a plastic bag with a DHL label on it didn't bother me as much.  The little arm I purchased for $20 to hold the unit to a tripod is very nice quality.  Its not big, but it does appear well made and feels solid.

 

The Drop unit itself is also very good quality plastic.  I feel I got my monies worth.  

 

Overall: HAPPY  :D 

 

Now, tomorrow will be the acid test!!  Does it work??  How easy will it be to set up and get results.

 

Stay tuned.

 

Note:  Here is a link to the USER MANUAL, for anyone interested.  I downloaded the BLUTOOTH App from the Apple App store and checked it out, very cool!  

 

https://www.miops.co..._User_Guide.pdf

 

Now, dying to get started.   :)


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Posted 08 October 2018 - 09:37 PM

Looking good Art... :)


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Posted 09 October 2018 - 03:56 AM

Alright have fun cant wait to see the results!

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Posted 09 October 2018 - 12:53 PM

Thanks for the update, Art.

 

Really looking forward to seeing your pics.  :)


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Posted 09 October 2018 - 09:45 PM

Thanks for the unboxing...did you do a smell test?...Can’t wait to see the pictures
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Posted 10 October 2018 - 02:12 AM

Thanks for the unboxing...did you do a smell test?...Can’t wait to see the pictures

 

 

Always!

 

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 02:14 AM

OK, here are my very first results .... THEY STINK! :D
 
I thought this would be easy, it is not! 
 
I followed the manual and directions to a T.  The suggested settings do not produce the desired results.  Too many factors come into play.  Height, number of drops, spread between drops etc.
 
Its a fiddly thing, so I will keep trying!
 
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Posted 10 October 2018 - 09:49 AM

Nice. Some of those has an "R" rating. I also got the miop stuff, got it the same day as you. But, I'm not even sure when I can test or play with it yet. Are you using a glass to drip into? I was going to try and find a glass bowl of some sort.


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 10:15 AM

:lol:

Cool! We can experiment together.

I used a flower vase. Maybe a 2 “ diameter, 8” high. I put some dish soap in the vase. Do not put anything but water in the MIOPS.

1) you have to shoot in the dark.....this is a pain, but necessary as you are using BULB.
2) did I say it’s a pain?
3) CABLES.....they send ONE cable, you need TWO!
4) Cables are NOT long enough. You need a lot of cable to be set up comfortably, going to have to buy more.
5) you do not need to set the MIOPS high, a foot up is good!
6) CANT FIGURE OUT how to use SB-910 as commander and use SB-700 as slave, more light is better
- tried everything, nothing worked

You can’t do this during day, unless basement studio is light proof...again, BULB setting is the reason.


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 11:53 AM

OK, here are my very first results .... THEY STINK! :D
 
I thought this would be easy, it is not! 
 
I followed the manual and directions to a T.  The suggested settings do not produce the desired results.  Too many factors come into play.  Height, number of drops, spread between drops etc.
 
Its a fiddly thing, so I will keep trying!
 
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Don't be too hard on yourself, Art.  They're pretty good, for the first attempts.  Also, a darned sight better than anything that I come up with.  I'm looking forward to seeing what you come up with after you have a chance to practice.  :)


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 12:55 PM

:lol:

1) you have to shoot in the dark.....this is a pain, but necessary as you are using BULB.

I saw that.  :wacko: 

2) did I say it’s a pain?

Yes!

 

3) CABLES.....they send ONE cable, you need TWO!

I did get the two cables.

4) Cables are NOT long enough. You need a lot of cable to be set up comfortably, going to have to buy more.

I was hoping to use pocket wizards for triggers. Not sure yet as I haven't looked at it yet.

5) you do not need to set the MIOPS high, a foot up is good!

Thats good

6) CANT FIGURE OUT how to use SB-910 as commander and use SB-700 as slave, more light is better
- tried everything, nothing worked

I believe you need to use the SU-800 commander to link them. You should be able to place them in manual mode and set the remote optical mode. Not sure if the SB700 (or mine SB600) has that mode. I have the SB-900, I know it has one.

 

I will be having my gallbladder removed. So, I should have some time to play, I hope.

You can’t do this during day, unless basement studio is light proof...again, BULB setting is the reason.

 

I have a studio in the basement. LOL.


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 09:48 PM

Gall Bladder??

You too?

I want to keep mine, so I am pretending I’m fine!

Good luck! Let me know how it goes. I am more worried about what I can and can’t eat after!

I tried pocket wizards, could get them to fire! SB-910 is Commander, 700 slave.

Picket wizards shouldn’t matter.

Never got it to work.
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Posted 11 October 2018 - 12:21 AM

Art these look good Id say a successful first try.

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 03:02 AM

They look pretty good Art... I'm with Dennis... some are a bit adult rated :rolleyes: :P :D  or is that just me ...and Dennis B)


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 07:46 AM

:lol:

X Rated water drops! Who knew .....
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Posted 11 October 2018 - 12:31 PM

:lol:

X Rated water drops! Who knew .....

 

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 02:40 PM

I don't think these stink at all Art. The last one looks like a wizard's hat. Jeff


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 09:27 PM

Thanks, Jeff.


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Posted 11 October 2018 - 09:30 PM

Well, I think I hit the BULLS EYE!   I love this image.

 

It is the moment of impact where a MILK splash makes contact with a water drop an starts to infuse it with milk!!! OH YEA!  Maybe 200 images into the process and I hit this!  Nice!

 

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Milk in bowl

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:16 PM

A few more honorable mentions ....

 

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Posted 11 October 2018 - 11:22 PM

It looks like you’re getting the hang of it Art. I really like the first one of this series. Jeff
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Posted 12 October 2018 - 08:49 AM

Good work Art, after my surgery, we will have to talk. I don't think I will get the chance to shoot with the rig before.


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 09:37 AM

Thanks, Jeff....

Well, I have the hang of capturing these columns. I haven’t figured out the collision trick yet.

That’s where one drop on the way up, collides with a drop on the way down, giving you a crown effect. That is really hard to figure out at the m9ment.
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Posted 12 October 2018 - 01:02 PM

Well, I think I hit the BULLS EYE!   I love this image.

 

It is the moment of impact where a MILK splash makes contact with a water drop an starts to infuse it with milk!!! OH YEA!  Maybe 200 images into the process and I hit this!  Nice!

 

attachicon.gifFirst-Contact(1000px)_985.jpg

 

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Milk in bowl

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f14

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ISO100

 

 

 

Yup.  You hit the bullseye, Art.  Very nice shot.  :)


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Posted 12 October 2018 - 03:43 PM

Check this on out!! :D

 

This is FASCINATING to do.  However, no small shoot is under 100 images.  Takes a bit to get the timing right.  All Guess-work!!

 

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I tried something new...

 

I turned a glass container upside down.  This drop hit a hard surface.  I believe, a second drop just made impact.  Its amazing what you can capture with the blast of a flash.

 

1/64th second on BULB.

 

I learned this in Flash Class.  Really comes to light with this type of photography.

 

I shot this in my dining room in daylight today!


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Posted 13 October 2018 - 12:53 PM

There is one gent in our camera club who uses home-made electronic triggers, to do something similar.  The idea is that a sensor triggers the shutter as soon as the drop is released.  Does this use something similar, to trigger the shutter?  :)


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 01:07 AM

Good work Art, after my surgery, we will have to talk. I don't think I will get the chance to shoot with the rig before.


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 01:37 AM

There is one gent in our camera club who uses home-made electronic triggers, to do something similar.  The idea is that a sensor triggers the shutter as soon as the drop is released.  Does this use something similar, to trigger the shutter?  :)


Mark,

The way this works is pretty simple.

Download a app to control:
- triggering the drops
- up to 4 max
- size of each
- delay of the release of each drop
- triggering flash
- triggering shutter

The central unit has a reservoir to hold water,
A release cellinoid that triggers the water drops,
A cable goes from this devise to flash
A cable goes to this device to camera

Cell phone app controls everything including the trigger.

Very straight forward to set up, very difficult to get an image!
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Posted 14 October 2018 - 12:51 PM

Thanks, Art.  It sounds like the general idea is the same, even if the specific equipment (as in far fewer wires going to various places) is different.  Unless one loves playing around with wiring, MIOPs looks like a low-cost, effective way to go.  :)


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Posted 14 October 2018 - 10:05 PM

Thanks, Art.  It sounds like the general idea is the same, even if the specific equipment (as in far fewer wires going to various places) is different.  Unless one loves playing around with wiring, MIOPs looks like a low-cost, effective way to go.  :)

 

 

MIOPS is very impressive in the sense it is cheap, good solid quality, easy to set up and jump into.  However, aside from what you see, I have yet to get those spectacular crowning images with it!!  Have yet to figure out the trick.

 

If I can nail that, then this is the solution to run with.


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