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#1 Jon H.

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Posted 24 October 2007 - 12:09 PM

Hi Friends,

I recently posted an image that I had originally intended to do as HDR (High Dynamic Range), but got frustrated with Photoshop CS3's handling of the clouds, so resorted to simple masking, sky-replacement, etc.

Anyway, at Arlon's recommendation, I downloaded the free trial of HDRsoft's Photomatix (Mac and Windows available), and gave it a try on the same image. AMAZING!

Here's the rough result of the Photomatix version:

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Here's the version I did first in Photoshop (sky replacement, masking, etc.).

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Of course, they're processed very differently, but I like the detail in the the Photomatix-processed version (typical of HDR) that shows in the wood grain of the side rails and trailer bed, and the gourds. Much closer to what I saw when I took the photo in the first place. I may have to buy Photomatix after all!

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Posted 24 October 2007 - 12:42 PM

Like 'em both, Jon but appreciate your notes on both processes. Something tells me this methodology is going to become more de facto as time goes on... thanks! Mule
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Posted 24 October 2007 - 01:20 PM

The amount of HDR affect can also be easily controlled with the sliders. Took me a few tries to get them where I wanted but there is a lot of adjustabilty. Also a lot can be done with a single raw file or just several JPG files. I have had good results with handheld images too. The aligning part of the progam does a good job of aligning pictures if you let it.. Good luck. It's a lot of fun to play with but as I've used it, I'm going more and more subtle with it. I like the pictures you have to ask yourself "is it?" or "isn't it:". Also can be used in more than just cloud pictures. Here's a link to some of my early examples mostly from handheld P&S pictures: HDR... Arlon
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Posted 24 October 2007 - 01:24 PM

Cool stuff, Arlon. I can see I'm going to have to spend some more time with Photomatix. I did some Photoshop HDR stuff from our Father Son Campout this past summer. I'll have to go back to those images and see if I get a more "satisfying" result from Photomatix.

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Here's a link to some of my early examples mostly from handheld P&S pictures: HDR... Arlon


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Posted 24 October 2007 - 01:27 PM

Thanks, Mule. It will be interesting to try something that Arlon mentioned: HDR from a single image. Since HDR technique usually requires several images w/differing exposures (therefore, some planning involved), it will be interesting to see how the results compare. Jon
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Posted 24 October 2007 - 07:17 PM

You can do single image in Photomatix or make several exposures of the same image in PS and stack them in photomatix. I've gotten some surprise (good surprise) results from making several exposures of the same raw file to input into Photomatix. I've gotten my money's worth out of it for sure.
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 07:27 PM

I have been wondering if you could photoshop one photo into several lighter and darker shots and then layer them. Now I have the answer. Thanks.



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Posted 10 January 2014 - 04:22 AM

Don't know exactly how to do it yet but you can do HDR toning of a single image


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 11:11 AM

Gary, the single image hdr can be accomplished several ways. It can be done in photomatix from a single file (RAW is WAY better for this). Simply selecting single file HDR and pushing the button. The way I prefer to do it is to take an image into PS Elements (that I use). I open the image in the RAW editor (jpg or raw can me opened in the raw editor). Then make several copies of the original image and different exposures (exposure slider in raw editor). If you have a raw file you can get a lot of details in the shadows my making one over exposed, and more details in the highlights (sky) my making another copy under exposed. Make a third copy with no change to keep the output images consistant.

 

You should now have at lest three images of different apparent exposure that you can bring into photomatix and let it do it's thing. You can also do an exposure merge in the photomerge part of elements with these three images. Sometimes gives more realistic look that I get from photomatix.


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 06:35 PM

Tks for the heads-up Arlon, that makes sense actually


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 06:45 PM

I use LR 5 and Matt K's HDR single image preset for all my HDR converts. The preset has three lights that are adjustable. At the moment, never used PS CC or any others.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 02:12 PM

I have been wondering if you could photoshop one photo into several lighter and darker shots and then layer them. Now I have the answer. Thanks.

 

Hi CBN,

 

To expand on what the others have said, both Photomatix and Nik HDR Efex Pro allow for single image processing.  For both software packages, select the Tone Mapping option.  I won't comment on Lightroom because I'm still going through Classroom In A Book, and haven't played with the presets yet.


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