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Posted 05 January 2016 - 05:50 PM

Hang on - did you se the ISO of the D5?

 

OVER 3 million!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Given all the new bell and whistles on this camera, are you talking about the sensitivity of the sensor or the retail price of the camera?  :P

 

Sorry, guys - just couldn't resist!  :lol:


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Posted 05 January 2016 - 07:43 PM

I'm still skeptical.  

 

Nikon USA doesn't show it on their list of DX cameras.  However, when you type "D500" in the search line, I got a message saying that it could be pre-ordered.  Nikon Canada doesn't show anything for it.

You are surprised the MORONS at Nikon Canada are not on top of the game!


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Posted 05 January 2016 - 07:48 PM

Where is this ISO "3 million" coming from, as every spec I see says "Native iso 100 -102,400??????


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Posted 05 January 2016 - 07:48 PM

Art the warm weather is affecting them they are not used to it this time of year! :P

 

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 07:53 PM

CM it is expandable up and down so the expanded ISO is 3 Million. Base is 100-102,400 but the expanded is 50-3,280,000! B)

 

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 08:02 PM

The D500 shoots TIFF, along with the regular Nikon NEF options at 12-14 bit UNcompressed, Compressed and lossless compressed. TIF wow.

 

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 08:11 PM

Expandable is usually just all hype to sell to those that are impressed by misleading numbers. Expandable iso is only a useful tool for getting a shot that you must have, but are not concerned with quality of noise. The noise gets quite noticeable above the native iso of most all cameras. That is why I was asking, as I do not consider expandable iso to be relevant to a cameras performance rating. Just my 2 cents worth.

That being said, I DO think iso 102,400 is "AWESOME" in a camera with these specs.


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Posted 05 January 2016 - 11:30 PM

You are surprised the MORONS at Nikon Canada are not on top of the game!

 

Not really.

 

Their web site had a full set of links later on.  Don't ask me how much later.  ;)


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Posted 06 January 2016 - 02:12 AM

I have just been thinking... hopefully Nikon will continue with their DX pro line up into the future.. we have had the D1/D100, D2/D200, D3/D300, D4/???, now finally the D5/D500, ..But they have shot themselves in the foot somewhat.... what do they call the next ones...D6/D???, D7/D???, D8/D???  :D :lol:


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Posted 06 January 2016 - 02:14 AM

I have just been thinking... hopefully Nikon will continue with their DX pro line up into the future.. we have had the D1/D100, D2/D200, D3/D300, D4/???, now finally the D5/D500, ..But they have shot themselves in the foot somewhat.... what do they call the next ones...D6/D???, D7/D???, D8/D???  :D :lol:


Yup numbering not Nikons strong point. :P

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 02:49 AM

Expandable is usually just all hype to sell to those that are impressed by misleading numbers. Expandable iso is only a useful tool for getting a shot that you must have, but are not concerned with quality of noise. The noise gets quite noticeable above the native iso of most all cameras. That is why I was asking, as I do not consider expandable iso to be relevant to a cameras performance rating. Just my 2 cents worth.

That being said, I DO think iso 102,400 is "AWESOME" in a camera with these specs.

 

The entire point of a D5 class camera is to be able to take a shot no matter what. If you have to push the iso to get a picture then you will do it as a grainy shot is better than no shot and will make your editor happier than turning up with a shrug. It is entirely relevant to the photographers who use this level of gear to pay their mortgage each month.


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Posted 06 January 2016 - 02:50 AM

I have just been thinking... hopefully Nikon will continue with their DX pro line up into the future.. we have had the D1/D100, D2/D200, D3/D300, D4/???, now finally the D5/D500, ..But they have shot themselves in the foot somewhat.... what do they call the next ones...D6/D???, D7/D???, D8/D???  :D :lol:

 

In 10 years time that can make a D500s  :D


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Posted 06 January 2016 - 08:16 AM

Comparison D500 vs D300s...

 

Link: https://photographyl...00s#more-121729

 

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 12:33 PM

First pro-grade body with an articulated screen!


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Posted 06 January 2016 - 01:32 PM

First pro-grade body with an articulated screen!

And a touch screen - wonders will never cease  :D


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Posted 06 January 2016 - 01:40 PM

Just noticed - no built-in flash unit on the D500?

 

Thats a change of direction for Nikon but I suppose not uncommon these days as Pentax did the same with the K3II and Fuji the same on my X-T1.

Shame though as its a great little tool when push comes to shove and handy for triggering a Speedlight via CLS.


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Posted 06 January 2016 - 02:02 PM

It could be because of the new flash being radio controlled.


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Posted 06 January 2016 - 02:07 PM

I too was thinking it's due to the change to the radio controlled flash units.

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 02:15 PM

The D500 can do 'bluetooth'.... maybe it can control the new flash... that would be cool.


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Posted 06 January 2016 - 03:21 PM

Shame though as its a great little tool when push comes to shove and handy for triggering a Speedlight via CLS.

 

Agree.  This past week, I watched a flash photography course that mentioned how useful it is as fill light.


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Posted 06 January 2016 - 06:52 PM

I'm still skeptical.  

 

Nikon USA doesn't show it on their list of DX cameras.  However, when you type "D500" in the search line, I got a message saying that it could be pre-ordered.  Nikon Canada doesn't show anything for it.

Nikon Canada website showing the D500 $2699.95 body only.



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Posted 06 January 2016 - 06:53 PM

Nikon USA has it listed here at $1996.

 

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 12:18 AM

Nikon Canada website showing the D500 $2699.95 body only.

 

Stevie, thanks for putting this in perspective.  

 

It really comes down to budget and the type of photography that one wants to do.  Broadway Cameras, here in Vancouver, is listing it at the same price.  Meanwhile, they are advertising the D810 at $2977, body only.  At the same time, they are advertising the D750 at $1979 body only; and at $2649 with a 24-120/f4 lens.  So buyers can get a pro level camera for less than $300 more; or they can buy a quality, fairly recent FX camera body and lens for slightly less money.

 

While Nikon has produced an outstanding camera, I wonder if they have shot themselves in the foot?  It depends on how much of their potential market got tired of waiting and upgraded to FX; and how many DX owners will be willing to pay that much, for an upgrade.   As shown above, those users who are still thinking about FX may choose a D810 or D750 for only a few dollars more.  Further, how many D7200 owners are feeling more than a bit annoyed tonight?  The good news for them is they have a top quality camera that was only introduced last year.  If I was in their shoes, I wouldn't be in a rush to sell it.  It was a good camera when you bought it and it still is.


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Posted 07 January 2016 - 12:41 AM

Here the D750 is $300(on sale at the moment so its the same price as the D500) more than the D500 and the D810 is even more. The D500 spec wise kills the D750 in most areas except FF and MP but is 24 that much more than 20 and the speed and build of the D500 gives it a leg up. I would not be surprised if the IQ scores are very close if not in favor of the D500.

 

I can see the D500 in the bag of many Pros as a backup or when they want a smaller fast very fast action camera.

 

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 02:49 AM

The BIF shooters will be (have been) chomping at the bit for this and that will form the backbone of the sales. With the new competitively priced long zoom lens Nikon introduced recently it will be a killer combination for wildlife photographers who don't have the resources to get a D4/5 and a bag of mega primes.


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Posted 07 January 2016 - 05:01 AM

Nice. I was hoping against hope that they'd do this. Maybe it'll drive down the price of the D7200???
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Posted 07 January 2016 - 05:24 AM

Comparison D500 vs D7200...

 

Link: https://photographyl...200#more-121771

 

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 09:27 AM

While I like the specs of the D500, it looks like the long awaited successor to the D300, the price here in the UK is too high.

For less than half the price you can get a D7200 which is an excellent camera plus it has a built in flash with commander mode, unlike the D500. With the D500 we are going to have to use wireless commanders like Pocket Wizards (or Nikon's own solution) which for many people will be an unwanted extra expense.

For the few extra features (which are really nice by the way) we are paying a lot more money. I think I can live without an extra 1EV (over the D7200), touch screen (not sure I like that anyway), tilting LCD (I'm not convinced I like that either, it might break too easily), Bluetooth, 153 focus points, USB 3, 4K video and a couple of other features. Don't get me wrong they are great features, but really they are only an incremental upgrade over the D7200.

The D7200 is an awesome camera that only misses a few pro features. So while I like the D500 I don't like it enough to buy it unless the price goes way down. At the moment I could buy two D7200s instead of a D500 and still have change.

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 10:04 AM

I guess I should have mentioned the incredibly fast frame rate on the D500. That's a real bonus for sports photographers over the D7200. The price for that is a lower megapixel count so we'll have to see how well the sensor performs. The DXO test results will be interesting.

I don't need a high frame rate myself so it isn't a feature I'm looking for so that's why I forgot to mention it.
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Posted 07 January 2016 - 10:14 AM

According to Thom Hogan, the new Kit DX lenses are partly the same working spec's of the Nikon 1 series. Perhaps, Nikon maybe putting the D500 up against mirrorless.

 

"A lot of you probably will dismiss the 18-55mm AF-P lens announcements (one with and one without VR). These new kit lenses reveal a bit about Nikon’s strategy in taking on the entry mirrorless crowd: simplification and some faux size reduction. 

The simplification is actually hard to spot. These new kit lenses don’t have any user buttons. Gone is the A M button to control focus, and there’s button on the lens to control VR on the VR version. Where did those buttons go? To the camera’s menu system, which is going to require firmware updates for at least the D3300 and D5500, and probably more. 

Well, wait, these lenses do have one button: the button you have to press to extend the lens into shooting position. When zoomed to the L (lock) position, the lens retracts to a very short extension from the camera, ala the Nikon 1 kit lenses. Indeed, that’s not all these lenses inherited from the Nikon 1: the lens hood (LB-N101) is actually an already existing Nikon 1 lens hood ;~).  "

I Looked up the weight of the D500, and at about 2lbs, I don't think this is a mirrorless camera. At least it is not think as a Fuji or Oly. 


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